Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site hydra.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!harvard!think!mit-eddie!cybvax0!frog!hydra!die From: die@hydra.UUCP (Dave Emery) Newsgroups: net.video Subject: Re: problems with HiFi VCR's Message-ID: <134@hydra.UUCP> Date: Fri, 4-Oct-85 23:25:53 EDT Article-I.D.: hydra.134 Posted: Fri Oct 4 23:25:53 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 9-Oct-85 06:39:58 EDT References: <38@utecfc.UUCP> <20600020@hpcvry.UUCP> Organization: Charles River Data Systems, Framingham MA Lines: 76 > >> 5) Worst of all, a distortion problem which seems level and frequency > >> dependent. This is really apparent with solo recordings (for example, a > >> female opera singer or a trumpet) where there is no other music to mask > >> the problem. I would describe the distortion as a harsh, jagged kind of > >> sound which accompanies the music. This occurs at levels below the red > >> LED (0dB). I recorded some sine wave test tones at different levels and > >> frequencies. The performance seems OK at low frequencies, but at high > >> frequencies the same harsh, jagged sound emerges, somehow superimposed > >> over the test tone. > > Because of the way the signal is recorded on the tape (in 1/30 second > slices) the playback signal contains a 30 Hz switching transient. The > system has circuitry to remove this noise and normally does very good > job of it. However, (for reasons I don't understand) it fails miserably > on high tones without much background. The worst case of this being test > tones. This happens on both Beta and VHS HI-FI and has been reported > in Video Review. I have confirmed it on all of my machines. There > does not seem to be anything that can be done about it. > --- Raan Young (hp-pcd!raan) I believe that there is quite simple explanation of this phenomonon. It has to do with the effect of a slight time delay error in the signal coming from one spinning head versus the signal coming from the other. Assuming a clever and distortionless circuit for handling the switch between heads, there still exists a form of distortion that should be worst on pure high frequency notes. That distortion is phase modulation of the high frequency signal at the head switch rate due to slight errors in the angular position of one head versus it's opposite number 180 degrees across the head drum. This can cause one head to be reading FM audio delayed by a few hundred nanoseconds to a couple of microseconds or so (1 us corrosponds to 39 seconds of arc in head alignment for a head drum spinning at 1800 rpm). The effect of this difference in delay is to cause a phase shift in the audio demodulated from the fm carrier every time the electronics switches from one head to the other. Or in other words to phase modulate the high frequency notes with a 30 hz square wave. At 10 khz a signal has a period of 100 us and a jitter of as little as 3 microseconds would cause a phase modulation of 10 degrees. A phase modulation of 10 degrees results in first order sidebands about 21 (approx) db below the tone, this corrosponds to a 'IM' distortion of about 10 percent (Pardon my simple estimates, I haven't bothered with more terms of the series than the first couple). I am not an expert on phychoaccoustics but I suspect that a tone this impure (with sidebands stretching out from + and - 30 hz) won't sound as sweet as a nice pure 10 khz tone with little or no sideband energy near it. Obviously the distortion is much less at lower frequencies. It may very well be that this distortion is much less audible when AM modulation (by instrument and musician) generates the dominent sideband energy, thus only passages with pure high frequency notes will sound bad. It is also possible that the head switching electronics also introduce a transient due to balence errors of various sorts between the channels. I do not know whether this is worse in magnitude than the phase modulation. The time delay could be corrected by use of ccd or other types of analog delay elements to compensate for the mechanical errors in the heads (the tv video sync pulses make a nice reference for allowing such a circuit to correct dynamically). This kind of time base correction is actually applied to video coming out of broadcast vtrs, and it would substantially eliminate the error due to this cause but would probably be expensive. David I. Emery Charles River Data Systems 617-626-1102 983 Concord St., Framingham, MA 01701. uucp: decvax!frog!die