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From: ray@rochester.UUCP (Ray Frank)
Newsgroups: net.women
Subject: Re: Name Changes ("traditions that have evolved" disappearing)
Message-ID: <12130@rochester.UUCP>
Date: Mon, 7-Oct-85 16:47:11 EDT
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Posted: Mon Oct  7 16:47:11 1985
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> In article <11901@rochester.UUCP> ray@rochester.UUCP (Ray Frank) writes:
> >Good luck in your marriage, you will need it.  I don't mean this to be
> >a negative or sarcastic remark, I really do wish you well, but don't take
> >the 50% divorce rate to trivially.  Thinking it could never happen to you
> >is perhaps idealistically, unrealistically optomistic.  Fifty percent means 
> >half the people are a victim of the 'enlightened need for change' era we 
> >are now living in.  
> 
> Of course, but the same remarks apply to YOU.  Living in the past is not going
> to ensure that you don't get a divorce.  It takes two to get married, but only
> one to get unmarried!  so what's your point?
> -- 
> Sophie Quigley
> {allegra|decvax|ihnp4|linus|watmath}!utzoo!mnetor!sophie

I never said that anyone was immune to divorce.  Also it takes two to get 
unmarried.  

Many marriage counselors today feel that marriages are not working because of
the 'ME' attitude instead of the 'WE' attitude.  The 'ME' attitude is a
symtom of this new age we have entered, you know, this period of personal
enlightenment of rediscovering one's self.  The 'WE' attitude is more the
tradionalists thinking from another age commonly refered to as the past.
 
I've heard these counselors also mention that committment, which is a key word
in a marriage, is very difficult to achieve by people who are more into
their own desires and self-serving interests than people who are not. 
In any case, I'm no expert, only someone who recognizes that the divorce rate
compared to another age is way outa sight and I happen to agree with some of
the experts who think they know why.
    regards
         ray