Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 (Tek) 9/28/84 based on 9/17/84; site tektronix.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!tektronix!moiram From: moiram@tektronix.UUCP (Moira Mallison ) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: what makes you feel feminine/masculine? Message-ID: <5797@tektronix.UUCP> Date: Tue, 8-Oct-85 13:35:02 EDT Article-I.D.: tektroni.5797 Posted: Tue Oct 8 13:35:02 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 11-Oct-85 07:24:55 EDT References: <248@ssc-vax.UUCP> <1944@reed.UUCP> <32@ubc-cs.UUCP> Reply-To: moiram@tektronix.UUCP (Moira Mallison ) Distribution: net Organization: Tektronix, Beaverton OR Lines: 28 Summary: In article <32@ubc-cs.UUCP> andrews@ubc-cs.UUCP (Jamie Andrews) writes: > > I find this amazing, though not necessarily bad. Here in 1985, >on a newsgroup devoted to women's issues, women are still talking >about pampering themselves, wearing traditionally women's things, >and being irrationally emotional as the things which make them feel >feminine. > I don't find this amazing at all. For me, what the women's movement is about is not only embracing the "masculine role", but continuing to value the "feminine role". It is not enough to be accorded the freedom and privleges accorded to men; we need to *value* those aspects of ourselves which are considered "feminine" (and therefore devalued in the patriarchal society) as well. I have some sympathy for you, Jamie. The frustration will only end, however, when you are able to accept both the feminine and masculine aspects of your personality. I feel "masculine" when I'm taking care of things myself: the flat tire on the car, leaky faucets, etc. I feel "feminine" when I'm wearing silk, or lace; when I'm very dressed up, etc, but most especially when I'm rocking a baby to sleep. Moira Mallison tektronix!moiram