Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site randvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!hao!hplabs!sdcrdcf!randvax!edhall From: edhall@randvax.UUCP (Ed Hall) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: The Increasing Divorce Rate, and The Future Message-ID: <2726@randvax.UUCP> Date: Tue, 8-Oct-85 02:12:50 EDT Article-I.D.: randvax.2726 Posted: Tue Oct 8 02:12:50 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 11-Oct-85 08:42:33 EDT References: <5211@elsie.UUCP> <11302@rochester.UUCP> Reply-To: edhall@rand-unix.UUCP (Ed Hall) Organization: Rand Corp., Santa Monica Lines: 36 There has been a lot of back-and-forth about the fact that the divorce rate has increased greatly in the past few decades. Ray Frank blames the liberation of women and the discarding of ``traditional values'' as the cause of this. I agree, 100%. The increasing life-span is only a minor factor in comparison, at least in recent decades. But I differ most strongly from Ray that this is a necessarily bad thing. Fewer women (and men) are choosing to suffer in bad relationships. Women are asking for more out of marriage, and often aren't getting it--and so are moving on. Ray thinks this is self-centeredness. I think it is self-respect. I think Ray is being self-centered by expecting other people to live according to his expectations. We are in a transitionary generation. Old institutions aren't working very well (in many cases they never did, dispite what people think-- human memory is always selective). We flounder sometimes in attepts at forming new institutions. We mix old and new in ill-fitting ways. We learn by doing. Sometimes we make mistakes, and have to back out and try again. Thus, I think that the high divorce rate is a natural result of transitions from old ways of doing things to new (and eventually better) ways of doing things. When have people not been self-centered, especially in times of change? It takes time for self-awareness to develop beyond self-obsession. Change is inevitable. The symptoms of change are anathema to those who fear it, as Ray appears to. But we are very far from anarchy. I fear pessimism such as Ray's far more than the forces of change, because such pessimism poisons the future, and represents a lack of faith in human ability. Enough people with such attitudes create a self-fullfilling prophecy. -Ed Hall decvax!randvax!edhall