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From: cheryl@lasspvax.UUCP (Cheryl Stewart)
Newsgroups: net.women
Subject: Re: all those sailors
Message-ID: <592@lasspvax.UUCP>
Date: Wed, 9-Oct-85 11:30:51 EDT
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Posted: Wed Oct  9 11:30:51 1985
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In article <267@ssc-vax.UUCP> ginger@ssc-vax.UUCP (Ginger Grover) writes:
>*** REPLACE THIS LINE WITH YOUR MESSAGE ***
>
>From: ray@rochester.UUCP (Ray Frank)
>
>>> 
>>> I feel feminine when half a dozen men are chasing me
>>> despite the fact that I don't wear makeup, or any of
>>> that stuff.  I don't understand it.  I really can't 
>>> handle more than two or three at a time.  And they always
>>> get so HURT and whiney and difficult.  Men are so 
>>> emotional.  It's really absurd.
>>> 
>>> I feel feminine when this one ... oh, rats.  Don't
>>> want to get censored by the net.thought-police.
>>> 
>>> >
>>> >   		           Ginger

Frankie say:
>>I'll bet you feel extremely feminine when standing at the docks in San Diego
>>anticipating the arrival of that air craft carrier with ALL THOSES SAILORS.
>>

Ginger responds (and rightfully so):
>Just to set the record straight, Ray, I did post the original
>feminity/masculinity question.  However, I cannot take credit 
>for the above excerpted response - you got the signatures mixed
>up, dear boy.  Nor have I ever been to San Diego, or waited on...
>		Ginger "peel me a grape" Grover
>		ihnp4!uw-beaver!ssc-vax!ginger

To set the record even straighter, my comments (the stuff Frankie
falsely attributed to Ginger) were completely sarcastic.  I agree
with Ginger in that the male intellectual and emotional awareness
is often beneath contempt (e.g. Ray Frank). I disagree with Ginger's 
limitation of femininity/masculinity to mere sexual posturing.  There's
much more to life than that.  Furthermore, it is difficult enough to keep
men in their place WITHOUT gratuitous sexual posturing.  Personally,
I don't feel very feminine when I have to tell some horse's ass man
that he's wasting his time chasing me, and that why doesn't he grow
up and realize that people have brains and souls as well as sex organs.
Ever read "The Games People Play", Ginger?
Start with the chapter entitled "RAPO".  

                Spice