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From: ray@rochester.UUCP (Ray Frank)
Newsgroups: net.women
Subject: Re: Name Changes ("traditions that have evolved" disappearing)
Message-ID: <12298@rochester.UUCP>
Date: Sun, 13-Oct-85 12:29:13 EDT
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Posted: Sun Oct 13 12:29:13 1985
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> 
> From ray@rochester.UUCP (Ray Frank) Wed Dec 31 19:00:00 1969
> >I never said that anyone was immune to divorce.  Also it takes two to get 
> >unmarried.  
> 
> >Many marriage counselors today feel that marriages are not working because of
> >the 'ME' attitude instead of the 'WE' attitude.  The 'ME' attitude is a
> >symtom of this new age we have entered, you know, this period of personal
> >enlightenment of rediscovering one's self.  The 'WE' attitude is more the
> >tradionalists thinking from another age commonly refered to as the past.
>  
> Oh no! The 'WE' attitude is sexist! The 'WE' attitude said "The husband
> ultimately makes all the decisions." In the past women has very little input
> into what went on. If your husband found a new job in another city, you
> moved with him. If your husband said you can only spend $10 a week on
> yourself, that's all you got, since he made all the money. Traditional
> marriage implys traditional commitment implys traditional sex roles
> for men and women. It was a great deal for men, but a lousy one for women
> who wanted to do more than raise a family and take care of a house.
> 
If I told you once, I told you a million times, don't exagerate, and generally
speaking, don't over generalize.

From above: you should have said "SOME husbands ultimately make all the decis-
ions", and "In the past, SOME women had very little input into what went on",
and SOME husbands alowed 10 bucks a week on his wife, etc., etc.  You really
make it sound like there existed a robotic society where wives were
nothing more than subordinate machines with on/off buttons, no love, no
consideration, no feelings.