Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles $Revision: 1.7.0.8 $; site cdp Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!decwrl!Glacier!cdp!scott From: scott@cdp.UUCP Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: what makes you feel feminine/ma Message-ID: <4900001@cdp> Date: Tue, 8-Oct-85 04:11:00 EDT Article-I.D.: cdp.4900001 Posted: Tue Oct 8 04:11:00 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 15-Oct-85 08:14:32 EDT References: <848@homxb.UUCP> Lines: 32 Nf-ID: #R:homxb.UUCP:-84800:cdp:4900001:000:1738 Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!scott Oct 8 01:11:00 1985 Actually, men can wear skirts. There's a man here in Palo Alto that wears skirts often (of course, it's uncommon enough that I hear he was on some talk show). A man friend of mine used to wear dresses while walking around town (of course, he occasioanlly got cat-calls). I wear a caftan in my house, and feel no qualms about wandering outside in it to get the paper. An easy way for a man to try wearing a skirt or dress in public is to do it on Halloween (it's become my standard). And don't wear all kinds of makeup and absurd high heels and such, just a dress or skirt (of course, unless you're lucky enough to have something with pockets, you'll need a pocketbook). The first time I did this was when I worked at HP-Labs, and it was a blast. I got a wolf-whistle from a woman at my bank, got "stared-up" by the sexist pigs (which made me realize that it's really "anything in a skirt"), and explained our newly christened super-duper experimental capability-based ECL computer to our lab director (he was too weirded-out to acknowledge verbally or non-verbally what I was up to, which is sort of interesting - maybe he thought it was OK). An interesting similarity to experiencing being "stared-up". On a lark, I went to my tenth high-school reunion (very conservative, rural high-school) in my blue jeans, wearing political buttons on my "Support Lesbian Mothers" tee-shirt. All night long people kept staring at my chest (my tee-shirt emblem); I kept thinking "look up here where my face is, I'm up here". I realized the next day that this is what women experience from men who stare at their chests. Scott Weikart Community Data Processing: 415-322-9069 {ihnp4,decvax,ucbvax,cbosgd,hao,purdue,duke,...}!hplabs!cdp!scott