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From: pwk@ccice2.UUCP (Paul W. Karber)
Newsgroups: net.women
Subject: Re: Name Changes ("traditions that have evolved" disappearing)
Message-ID: <663@ccice2.UUCP>
Date: Tue, 15-Oct-85 21:00:43 EDT
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Posted: Tue Oct 15 21:00:43 1985
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In article <1247@mtgzz.UUCP> seb@mtgzz.UUCP (s.e.badian) writes:

>Oh no! The 'WE' attitude is sexist! The 'WE' attitude said "The husband
>ultimately makes all the decisions." In the past women has very little input
>into what went on. If your husband found a new job in another city, you
>moved with him. If your husband said you can only spend $10 a week on
>yourself, that's all you got, since he made all the money. Traditional
>marriage implys traditional commitment implys traditional sex roles
>for men and women. It was a great deal for men, but a lousy one for women
>who wanted to do more than raise a family and take care of a house.

I still think you are over estimating the power of men.

>The 'ME' attitude is where are two people in the marriage and each of them
>has input. And you solve your differences through compromise. One side
>doesn't do all the compromising. You work at it. In the past you didn't
>have to work at marriages!

Tell my parents or my grandparents that. (They always like a good laugh :-)

>Women were so will trained to think there was
>nothing else for them to do outside of marriage that they wouldn't even
>consider a divorce. And men were trained that they shouldn't abandon
>their wives and children (though I would bet money that a lot more men
>skipped out on their wives than the other way around).
>
>Sharon Badian
>ihnp4!mtgzz!seb

I don't know what Ray Frank meant by "ME" and "WE", but it seems to me
that you've got it backasswards. The "ME" attitude always seemed to me
to be "If I don't get what I want then I should change things until
I do".  The "WE" attitude seems to me to be a partnership where we do
what is best for us.

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