Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site lanl.ARPA Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!ucbvax!ucdavis!lll-crg!seismo!cmcl2!lanl!crs From: crs@lanl.ARPA Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: IEEE cover Message-ID: <32217@lanl.ARPA> Date: Mon, 21-Oct-85 15:23:26 EDT Article-I.D.: lanl.32217 Posted: Mon Oct 21 15:23:26 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 23-Oct-85 08:20:52 EDT References: <1267@cornell.UUCP> Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory Lines: 50 > We're talking about the cover of the latest IEEE publications catalogue > here, I assume. I've handed people it, saying, "There's an upside-down > nude female figure on the cover," and they (once cued in this way) spot > it quickly. And I'll bet it is registered subconsciously even if it takes > "ten minutes to find it." > > As to the rest of the quoted posting, I must assume the author forgot > to :-), because I find the cover inexcusable -- but I'm saving > my flames for my letter to the IEEE. > First I apologize for singling out this example. There have been several. I hadn't seen -- No! that isn't right. I had seen the catalog in question but hadn't noticed the silhouette of a nude woman when I read the first article complaining about it. I don't believe this! What is next, a call to arms to picket your local museum, because they have all those nasty *naked* statues and paintings in there? Here we are in a world where toxic waste (conventional and nulcear) is accumulating at a rate that is growing exponentially and we *don't* know how to handle it safely -- our environment is being seriously polluted every day of our lives -- the threat of nuclear war continues -- people are not safe on the streets and the mongers of simplistic solutions think that outlawing guns and setting criminals free will make everything alright -- new diseases crop up regularly -- a large fraction of the world in general, and too many even in our own country haven't enough to eat -- and on and on... And you worry that a pleasant piece of graphic art happens to include a silhouette of a nude woman, a silhouette that a dirty old man like me didn't even *notice*? Have you looked at television lately? Have you been to a movie? Have you seen the generic violence to which no one seems to give a second thought? And you are this distressed over the portrayal of a nude? Please, don't tell me that this is net.women and that women find "this sort of thing" offensive. If your problems are so few that this is a problem for you, you are, indeed, lucky. All of the problems listed above affect *women* too. How many of you have actually seen the cover? Just curious. -- All opinions are mine alone... Charlie Sorsby ...!{cmcl2,ihnp4,...}!lanl!crs crs@lanl.arpa