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Subject: Jeff on Jerry and Jym on Playboy on Mensa
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Date: Wed, 23-Oct-85 18:12:37 EDT
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> Jerry - "Hey, I didn't know there were such pretty (and otherwise interesting -
>          don't forget that Playboy usually gives some sort of personal 
>          interest details) women in this group I belong to! I've got
<          to meet them for myself."
>  
> Jym - "How dare you consider a woman's attractiveness in deciding whether
>        you want to meet her or not!"
>  
> Me - "What sort of #@$%^&*%$ is that?!"

I don't know what kind of "#@$%^&*%$" that is, but it's not what the people
said, it's probably what you think the people said.  I don't know and won't
venture to say what Jerry meant, although I thought he probably meant it to
be a bit of a joke.  But, knowing Jym a bit better, and knowing HE DIDN'T
SAY THAT AT ALL, and reading his followup, his point closer to the fact that
the women you meet at Mensa aren't going to look like the women in the Playboy
pictorial; you sadly mistaken if you think so, because of the photographic 
techniques widely used in that industry.

Jym never says that you shouldn't look for people who you find physically
attractive.

I'm sorry, Jeff, I shouldn't jump up and down so hard, but it gripes me to
see people misinterpreting Jym that much.

Myself, well, I'd rather go off and interact with the real people rather than
look at pictures.  I'm not opposed to pictures of naked people, for reasons
that include: there's plenty of pictures of naked men for those who want to 
look at naked men, scantily clad people aren't dancing about trying to convince
me to buy compilers or toothpaste or other products which probably don't 
require lots of skin exposure, and (the nasty one) pictures of naked people 
don't have their importance inflated until they become more important than real
people or more "real" than real people--in other words, if a person has more
experience in looking at pictures of naked people than in dealing with real
people in real situations, this person is likely to draw their model of what
real people are like from what's in the magazines.  Which are full of weird
and unrealistic information.  Don't get me wrong--I'm not accusing anybody here
of being like this!

L S Chabot   ...decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-amber!chabot