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From: js2j@mhuxt.UUCP (sonntag)
Newsgroups: net.women
Subject: Re: Re: Rape (The nature of reality)
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Date: Thu, 24-Oct-85 13:48:11 EDT
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> > Although I am perfectly willing, myself, to trust *no men* at
> > all (in fact this is what I do) not to rape me, few women are
> > willing to live that way, and few women are willing to bar their
> > doors to all their male acquaintances because of these
> > statistics. 
> >  
> > Ellen Eades
> > -- 
> Ellen,
> Not trusting ANY man not to rape you rings of paranoia, or you are just
> flattering yourself by thinking you are such an irresistable target that
> a good man could turn bad by just looking at you.  Your remarks are an
> abomination to decent men every where.
> 
> ray

    Ray, apparently you don't have too much insight into the minds of 
decent men everywhere.  You think we're supposed to be angry at Ellen
because she won't trust us?  While I am sorry that Ellen has no faith
in her own ability to distinguish decent men from rapists, any outrage
I feel because of this situation is directed toward the scum who
have given her reason to be so distrustful.  'Decent men' blame the
criminals, not the victim.
    And one other thing, Ray- that crack about Ellen flattering herself
is not only outrageously insulting, but also shows your own ignorance.
As anyone seriously interested in ending rape has found out long ago,
rapists tend to choose their victims based, not on their attractiveness,
but on their vulnerability.  The idea that 'good men turn bad' just by
looking at a very attractive woman was invented by an immoral lawyer 
(is that redundant?) defending a rapist, and is believed only by sexists
who wonder if they may someday need such a defense.
-- 
Jeff Sonntag
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