Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!cbosgd!ucbvax!info-vax From: info-vax@ucbvax.UUCP Newsgroups: mod.computers.vax Subject: (none) Message-ID: <8511190516.AA13664@ucbvax.berkeley.edu> Date: Tue, 19-Nov-85 00:16:04 EST Article-I.D.: ucbvax.8511190516.AA13664 Posted: Tue Nov 19 00:16:04 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 21-Nov-85 06:45:07 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 30 Approved: info-vax@sri-kl.arpa Subject: Re: Does DEC even care about security issues In-reply-to: your article <8511180828.AA21362@ucbvax.berkeley.edu> In article <8511180828.AA21362@ucbvax.berkeley.edu>, Magill@UPENN.CSNET (MSCF Operations Manager) writes: >........ >Any operating system which does NOT PERMIT its backup >system to enforce standard labels can't even joke about >security - they simply don't give a damm. >Any system which permits ANY user to arbitrarily overrule >standard ANSI tape labels cannot even jokeingly talk >about secureity. I can not even protect my backup tapes >from users except by physically locking them up. >........ A comment on locking up tapes-- This is the best thing to do with tapes if they contain sensitive material even if you have the most secure backup utility in the world (short of encryption upon writing to tape). Any Joe Blow with his own system can mount that tape, while logged in as root, SYSTEM, or other sysadmin, and have a ball. At the worst he would have to copy the tape image physically to disk, then hack on it, which would be very easy with Unix, for example. (Of course he DOES have to sneak out the tape physically.) -- ------------------------------- Disclaimer: The views contained herein are | dan levy | yvel nad | my own and are not at all those of my em- | an engihacker @ | ployer or the administrator of any computer | at&t computer systems division | upon which I may hack. | skokie, illinois | -------------------------------- Path: ..!ihnp4!ttrdc!levy