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From: kbb@faron.UUCP (Kenneth B. Bass)
Newsgroups: net.micro,net.arch
Subject: Re: 386 Family Products
Message-ID: <391@faron.UUCP>
Date: Tue, 19-Nov-85 12:17:43 EST
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Posted: Tue Nov 19 12:17:43 1985
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Reply-To: kbb@faron.UUCP (Kenneth B. Bass)
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Summary: 

In article <426@ecn-pc.UUCP> mdm@ecn-pc.UUCP (Mike D McEvoy) writes:
>In article <6139@utzoo.UUCP> henry@utzoo.UUCP (Henry Spencer) writes:
>
>>Intel has made a lot of money, at everyone else's expense:  they
>>have probably succeeded in setting the industry back ten years.
>
>Let's see, 10 years ago....   Ah yes, the 8080 was just introduced...
>I believe a company called MITS introduced the Altair 8800.... The machine
>which really started the PC revolution....
>
>Seems to me, this may qualify INTEL as the company that set the industry
>ahead 10 years. Last I checked Henry, the free world revolved around one
>person making money at anothers expense....  If you are arguing against 
>capitalism, I think you are on the wrong net.  
>
>Going back further, if I remember correctly, INTEL introduced the first 
>"general purpose" micro, the 4004.  They are not just one of the large chip 
>companies, they had alot to do with the industry starting in the first place.
> 
>>I agree that Intel does some things right, but I almost wish they didn't.
>>Their support gets them customers their trashy processors don't deserve.
>>
>>> Now Henry, be nice to those poor
>>> INTEL people who indirectly brought us the PC, PC-AT,.........
>>
>>Sounds like a hanging offence to me!
>
>In the free market system, those who prduce trashy processors that are a
>waste of good sand do one thing.... lose the stockholders a great deal of
>money and upset a few fools that design the product in anyway..  The only
>product that INTEL produced that fulfilled this was the 432. That's one of
>the best track records around in this industry.
>
>I'm not in love with their chip architecture myself, but one should give 
>the devil his due.  INTEL has succeded in producing more successful micro
>products than anyone else and has provided the customers with the tools
>to get the product to market as well as an upgrade path from their earlier
>devices (8080-8086) to the next generation technology.   This is fact...
>This is also what keeps them a broad base of loyal customers....
>They must have one hell of alot of stupid customers......
>Who have alot of stupid customers .....
>that buy alot of products with .....
>trashy processors in them....
>That work.....
>
>Big Mac
>
>317-497-0509


Don't forget about CP/M.  INTEL's original development system ISIS was
the precursor of CP/M.

Just wanted to add my 2 cents worth...

			"It ain't necessarily so"
			ken bass
			linus!faron!kbb