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From: btl@mtunf.UUCP (Bernie Lee)
Newsgroups: net.auto.tech
Subject: Re: Re: Honda brakes vibrating
Message-ID: <467@mtunf.UUCP>
Date: Wed, 20-Nov-85 17:35:00 EST
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Posted: Wed Nov 20 17:35:00 1985
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> >I have an 85 Civic Sedan (vented discs) and had vibration on
> >braking starting at 10,000 km.  At 19500 km I got them fixed
> >under warranty (only took an hour or so to machine the rotors).
> 
> >Anyway, I am at a loss to determine a cause.  The dealer (other
> >than being sure I was the cause) was not able to offer any explanation.
> >The brakes were not overheated, seized, or anything else.
> >I suspect (hope?) that there was some stress in the original casting
> >that caused them to warp spontaneously.  I also hope that this
> >spontaneous warping has now ceased.  
> 
> 	Unfortunately, machined rotors are even more likely to warp than
> 	ones that have not been machined (since they are thinner). I had
> 	an '83 thunderbird turbocoupe (a real piece of trash I might add,
> 	but that's another story) that exhibited the pulsing at high(er)
> 	speed braking. I opted to live with it for fear that the
> 	machined rotors might result in even worse warpage.
> 
> Bob Schneider
> ihnp4!hpfcla!hpfcll!rjs

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Bob:

A friend of mine had the same problem with his '80 Honda Accord.
He had went thru the channels and got no help, we think it is
a design or material problem but not sure. Let me give you a suggestion,
I have a '82 Celica and the black out coating on the windshield
molding peeled off at 20K miles. Since is out of warranty, I had to call the
factory rep out in cal. to come to the dealership and take a look at
the problem. I manage to convince him that it was a material problem,
and he fixed it free of charge. Well, I went one step further and
made him guaranteed the fix and responsible for all my future problems
relating to that item. Well the bottom line is that "Get in touch
with the factory, they are usually a lot more coorperative than the
dealers"