Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site mit-amt.MIT.EDU Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!mit-amt!gerber From: gerber@mit-amt.MIT.EDU (Andrew S. Gerber) Newsgroups: net.college Subject: Conformity and Nonconformity Message-ID: <40@mit-amt.MIT.EDU> Date: Thu, 21-Nov-85 01:26:19 EST Article-I.D.: mit-amt.40 Posted: Thu Nov 21 01:26:19 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 23-Nov-85 01:46:58 EST References: <848@wdl1.UUCP> <701@ucsfcgl.UUCP> <35@mit-amt.MIT.EDU> Organization: MIT Media Lab, Cambridge, MA Lines: 87 In article <35@mit-amt.MIT.EDU>, gerber@mit-amt.MIT.EDU (Andrew S. Gerber) writes: > My dorm is co-ed, women and men living in rooms right next door to > each other. This is how life will be when you get out of college -- > let's face it, single sex dorms promote immaturity. Looking back on this quote, I really didn't mean it. The phenomenon I was really thinking about was the conformity/noncomformity issue of living groups. Every school has its conforming living groups, and its nonconforming living groups. Many times fraternities and all-single-sex dorms promote this sort of conformity. Other times, they do not. At MIT, the fraternities, are, in general, more conformist than some dorms. The coed frats are, as a whole, less conformist than the single sex frats. There are many local variations, but in general this is the case. Also at MIT, the east side of campus (East Campus and Senior House - it's not just for seniors, tho), are more liberal than the west side of campus. What I am wondering here is -- is this the case at other schools? At MIT, there are no frosh dorms -- and freshmen move into the dorm alongside of upperclassmen. Since there are doubles and triples right next to singles, the classes are evenly distributed through the dorm. MIT also makes it relativly easy to transfer from dorm to dorm. Frosh also pick their dorm AFTER they get to MIT. This makes for easy traffic of people from one dorm to another -- and tends to get the crazy people together with other crazys, nerds with nerds, etc. Is this the case at other schools? (Sorry to repeat that). For those of you who are wondering what I'm meaning by "conformist" and "non-conformist" here's some silly lists: Thing Conformist Nonconformist POLITICAL Republican Democrat AFFILIATION MUSIC SOFT LOUD Top 40's Talking Heads, Country Grateful Dead Wall of Voodo Tangerine Dream Etc.. NO DRUGS no drugs no drugs (I wish to point out, here, that there are many people who are both "conformist" and "nonconformist" who don't do any drugs. But for rhose who do, see the next section) DRUGS Beer Pot Mixed Drinks Wine LSD 'shrooms SEX With the chick With the chick from the all-girls from down the typing school down hall. the road FOOD Burgers Ravs NIGHTTIME ACTIVITY Tooling Tooling (well, this is MIT, y'know?) Some people will point out is all that the non conformist people may do is conform with the other non conformist people. So what. Replace conformity with "X" people and non-conformist people with "Y" people. Do you have "X" and "Y" people on your campus? Anyway, I hope this gives you an idea -Andy -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Andrew S. Gerber MIT '87 Systems Manager, Visible Language Workshop | | gerber@mit-athena.MIT.EDU, gerber@mit-amt.MIT.EDU, gerber@mit-mc.MIT.EDU | | {decvax, mit-eddie}!mit-amt!gerber {decvax, mit-eddie}!mit-athena!gerber | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+