Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site sdcc3.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!genrad!decvax!ittatc!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdcc3!bi50xrs From: bi50xrs@sdcc3.UUCP (dragonpup) Newsgroups: net.college Subject: Re: Apartheid Message-ID: <3093@sdcc3.UUCP> Date: Sat, 23-Nov-85 20:29:46 EST Article-I.D.: sdcc3.3093 Posted: Sat Nov 23 20:29:46 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 25-Nov-85 07:20:26 EST References: <4982@stolaf.UUCP> <4992@stolaf.UUCP> <4993@stolaf.UUCP> <1021@lll-crg.ARpA> Reply-To: bi50xrs@sdcc3.UUCP (dragonpup) Distribution: net Organization: lack of Lines: 27 In article <1021@lll-crg.ARpA> neveu@lll-crg.UUCP (Charles neveu) writes: >I have a question about divestment that I have never had answered to >my satisfaction. It is this: Does divestment actually put any pressure >on the companies which do business in South Africa, and hence, on the >South African government? The answer to me appears to be no, for the >following reasons. The University owns stock in IBM, which does >business in South Africa. They divest themselves of the stock, which >means they sell it to someone else at the Stock Market. The amount of >IBM stock in circulation has not decreased one share. IBM doesn't know >or care who owns their stock. It hasn't decreased their income one >cent. I don't mean to pick on IBM, I'm just using them as a generic and >common example. > Charles your argument (i really did read the rest of it) is completely believable, except your first assumption. what if the university (any university) is actually funding a project for an IBM in south africa ? then if the university pulled out, the project would be lost until an IBM found another grant. more likely the reverse would happen. e.g. if the physics dept had a grant from IBM to make this blaa-blaa thing and the university pulled out... then good-bye project. either way, the research probably will get divested first. Phil