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From: soren@reed.UUCP (Soren Petersen)
Newsgroups: net.comics
Subject: Re: X-Factor review (and spoiler)
Message-ID: <2145@reed.UUCP>
Date: Wed, 13-Nov-85 06:21:16 EST
Article-I.D.: reed.2145
Posted: Wed Nov 13 06:21:16 1985
Date-Received: Fri, 15-Nov-85 04:23:13 EST
References: <679@ihlts.UUCP> <172@isieng.UUCP> <2127@reed.UUCP> <174@isieng.UUCP>
Reply-To: soren@reed.UUCP (Soren Petersen)
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Keywords: mediocre, complaints


In article <174@isieng.UUCP> laurie@isieng.UUCP (Laurie Sefton) writes:
>In article <2127@reed.UUCP> soren@reed.UUCP (Soren Petersen) writes:
>>Wait a minute.  How would *you* react if the one person you truly loved
>>but thought dead came back to life.  Yes Scott is no doubt aware he is
>>being cruel, but he is under one hell of a lot of stress.
>>
>>I don't approve of a lot of the stuff that is going on in X-Factor, but
>>the portrayal of Scott's indecision seems quite well handled to me.
>
>Really? I certainly don't think so.  It looks like another throwback to
>the "Oh, I love Jean, but I just can't tell her so" of the mid-60's.  And
>being cruel to both your former lover and your wife isn't being a bozo?
>He has shown *a lot* more maturity in the past, and this seems to wash it
>all away.  Besides, his *friends* don't seem to be offering much advice
>*or* consolation.  Maybe if they just ignore it, it will go away?

On this we will simply have to agree to differ.  I would like to say that
dialogue is not the same thing as characterization (witness Claremont who
has great characters and horrible dialogue), and that nobody ever claimed
that Scott had completely gotten over losing Jean--he did marry a dead ringer
for her, after all.  His entire--rather fragile--world collapsed when he
found out that she was alive, I think he can be excused a fair amount
of indecision before he rebuilds.  He has one hell of a choice to make, I think
he can be allowed a little time to make it. Scott is a victim of events, not of
character.


>Besides, who out there reads The Thing? Is anyone pointing a gun to our
>heads and saying "accept mediocre {or worse!} comic books, that's all
>that we think you want and deserve".  Not the last time I checked, anyway.

I am not saying that anyone has to accept mediocre comic books.  What I
am saying is that the best way to handle it is to ignore it.   I am obviously
It seems to me that a depressingly large amount of the X-Factor postings only
confirm to me Shooter's opinion of the maturity of the Marvel readership.
I am not in favor of X-Factor, or even mediocre comics in general.  What I am in
favor of is a dignified silence in the face of them.  There is lots of really
great stuff out there we can talk about, some of it is even edited by Shooter
(Daredevil, or a lot of the Epic line, for example), why are we wasting so
much time and energy on the net bitching about X-Factor, and Shooter about
which we all agree (yes, me too) when we could be talking about things we
actually enjoy, and on which we have something interesting to say.
>>			Have a nice day
>>				Soren Petersen
>
>I will now.....
>
			Have another nice day
				Soren Petersen