Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site cvl.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!umcp-cs!cvl!kayuucee From: kayuucee@cvl.UUCP (Kenneth W. Crist Jr.) Newsgroups: net.comics Subject: Re: X-Factor Message-ID: <975@cvl.UUCP> Date: Tue, 19-Nov-85 13:24:37 EST Article-I.D.: cvl.975 Posted: Tue Nov 19 13:24:37 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 21-Nov-85 21:52:34 EST References: <9054@ritcv.UUCP> Distribution: net.comics Organization: Computer Vision Lab, U. of Maryland, College Park Lines: 35 > So no one likes Jean Grey's return. What more can you expect from > John Byrne and Society of Claremont Haters. Why does everybody hate > X-Factor. Let's see some articles saying why you think it is a bad > book. Something more substantial than " Sheer silliness.". > I did not like X-FACTOR, but I take offense at being called a Claremont Hater. I like a lot of Claremont's work, up until two years ago X-MEN was my favorite book. And I doubt there will ever be a story in comic form that will top GOD LOVES, MAN KILLS. This is the pinnacle of anything that Claremont could say about prejudice. And that is the point. There is nothing more to say about it. While it is true that anti- mutant sentiment cannot just magically stop in the Marvel Universe, he could stop rehasing the same old story over and over. He will never be able to recreate GOD LOVES, MAN KILLS and he should stop trying. What does the `Society of Claremont Haters' have to do with X-FACTOR? From what I hear Claremont had nothing and wants nothing to do with th book. Now, about X-FACTOR. The actions of the Original X-Men are doing nothing to lower the fear of mutants in the world. They seem to be adding to the problem. This is not the why to educate the masses about mutants and thereby allay their fear of mutants. The return of Jean Grey. When Jean died I was very upset. She was one of the best characters Marvel had at the time. I ranted and raved about Jim Shooter and what a bastard he was for killing her off. Then a few months later I thought about it in a calmer moment and realized he made a good editorial discision. Not a popular one, but a good one. AND he appeared to be ready to back it up no matter what. He SEEMED to have principles. Now, for a fast buck (anything to keep people from buying other people's comics) he has turned 180 degreesfrom his position about Jean Grey and why she had to die. I lost a lot of respect for Jim Shooter after hearing Jean was coming back. And even more after seeing how they did it. Well, that is all I have to say about the subject. Thank you for listening. Star-Lord