Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!ucbvax!ucbcory!cc-30 From: cc-30@ucbcory.BERKELEY.EDU (Sean "Yoda" Rouse) Newsgroups: net.comics Subject: Re: Miracleman Message-ID: <11140@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Tue, 3-Dec-85 18:48:53 EST Article-I.D.: ucbvax.11140 Posted: Tue Dec 3 18:48:53 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 5-Dec-85 06:15:09 EST References: <1327@jhunix.UUCP> Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: cc-30@ucbcory.UUCP (Kathy Li c/o Sean "Yoda" Rouse) Followup-To: (Darn! I forgot who posted the original!) Distribution: net.comics Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 41 Keywords: Moore Summary: A commentary on Moore's writing on general, and why it isn't a comic revolution. This is in reply to an article asking for opinions on Miracleman. I apologize in advance if what I ramble about isn't what was asked for. Alan Moore said it best, at the beginning of his San Diego Comicon seminar, "Despite all appearances, this is not the Second Coming. I am not the answer to comic books today." Undisputably, Moore's writing is top-quality, which makes it unusual. He brings a sense of depth to his plotting and characterization that is seldom found in comics. I hesitate to call it "realism", because if you judge Project Zarathustra in terms of reality, well...it doesn't quite make it. (I'd watch out for Watchmen, though. There, Moore will be treating superheroes as they'd affect the world, e.g. The US gets the first superhero, so the USSR keels under diplomatically in certain instances because of the superior military force this superhero represents.) Admittedly, Moore's characterizations of people is much closer to realism than, say, Claremont's writing. (I loved that bit about the difference between the love Miracleman/Marvelman has and the love that Moran has for Liz.) He also uses more up-to-date, immediate, hardhitting imagery and symbolism. His writing is so goddam complex, you can spend days just revelling in the richness of it. (e.g. V for Vendetta: the bit about Beethoven's Fifth, and the first paragraph in the Swamp Thing werewolf story). But it's not a comic book revolution. It's just good writing. It's superhero comics done right. I think the main problem with comic books today,is that even the fans don't really see it as a medium. (At least I don't) I see comic books as a specific kind of medium, generally superhero. This is wrong. Consider the motion picture. Think of the variety and diversity of movies out there on the market. Now think about the variety and diversity of comics. To me, the comics industry is rather like having a film market of soley science fiction/fantasy films, with a very few people diverging around the edges. Moore's writing is rather like a few superb films that push at the boundaries, but never breaks them. He's still IN the genre. Just think of all the possibilities that aren't being used--! Someone tell me: Why is it that the numerous film genres have survived, while in comics, only the superhero seems to be alive and well? --Kathy Li