Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83 (MC840302); site boring.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!whuxl!whuxlm!akgua!gatech!seismo!mcvax!boring!lambert From: lambert@boring.UUCP Newsgroups: net.crypt Subject: Re: Cryptographic Signature Schemes Message-ID: <6694@boring.UUCP> Date: Wed, 20-Nov-85 08:31:34 EST Article-I.D.: boring.6694 Posted: Wed Nov 20 08:31:34 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 23-Nov-85 04:57:18 EST References: <10970@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <576@ttrdc.UUCP> <332@snow.warwick.UUCP> Reply-To: lambert@boring.UUCP (Lambert Meertens) Organization: CWI, Amsterdam Lines: 30 Apparently-To: rnews@mcvax.LOCAL In article <332@snow.warwick.UUCP> rpt@warwick.UUCP (Richard Tomlinson) writes: > In article <576@ttrdc.UUCP> levy@ttrdc.UUCP (Daniel R. Levy) writes: >> Better yet, keep the documents themselves secret, like they are supposed to >> be. > I think you've missed the whole point of the original idea. Since the > documents are forgeries, keeping documents secret would make no difference. > But, if all secret documents are kept encrypted along with a secure > signature then it would be possible to prove beyond reasonable doubt that > the 'proof' that the KGB provide is forged. Another advantage of this approach is that the KGB could then *prove* that a secret document leaked to them *is* authentic, which currently only gullible people tend to believe. Seriously, I think that there are two motives for keeping documents secret: (1) they may contain information about strategy etc. that opponents can use to their advantage in determining their strategy; and (2) the documents may contradict publicized policies, such as "respect for human rights" or peaceful intentions. In the first case, an opponent would not want to reveal the fact that the information was no longer a secret. In the second case, the originator would be silly to attach an unforgeable signature. Lambert Meertens ...!{seismo,okstate,garfield,decvax,philabs}!lambert@mcvax.UUCP CWI (Centre for Mathematics and Computer Science), Amsterdam -- Lambert Meertens ...!{seismo,okstate,garfield,decvax,philabs}!lambert@mcvax.UUCP CWI (Centre for Mathematics and Computer Science), Amsterdam