Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83 (MC840302); site ogesml0.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!mcvax!vmucnam!timpit0!ogesml0!ciaran From: ciaran@ogesml0.UUCP (ciaran) Newsgroups: net.followup Subject: Re: Il accuse... Message-ID: <108@ogesml0.UUCP> Date: Fri, 8-Nov-85 16:58:50 EST Article-I.D.: ogesml0.108 Posted: Fri Nov 8 16:58:50 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 15-Nov-85 07:55:30 EST References: <487@ittvax.ATC.ITT.UUCP> <34@unc.unc.UUCP> <417@stcvax.UUCP> <127@crin.UUCP> <2337@flame.warwick.UURe: Il accuse... Organization: CNET PARIS . PAA/TIM/PIT . PARIS Lines: 31 As far as entering prohibited areas is concerned, is an act like flying over the sakhalin island (Korean airliner incident), on which it just so happens that important military installations are installed, or over US air bases (the Cubans had the nasty habit of doing this on a Havana -> Montreal flight really a "non-violent" act. Who was it that said that "one spy is worth ten infantry divisions." This is however what Greenpeace is doing; entering prohibited areas (i.e. the 12 mile limit) is prohibited under all international law, and the US , Sweden (mining soviet spy submarines), &c and other countries have a tendency to take potshots at people when they do so. I would suggest that those people who are shocked by my reference to the korean airliner incident read up on articles in this years Aviation and Space weekly. Recent facts establish that: 1. The US government (CAA) was aware that the airliner was of course less than 1/2 hour after it left Anchorage Alaska. 2. Japan Defense Agency radar shows that the pilot of the 747 took evasive action (including diving several thousand feet) from the MIG-2X for more than a quarter of an hour, before being shot down. This is contrary to another piece of international law (which dates to before the American revolution), stating that civilian vessels must "heave to" to military vessels, including military vessels of a foreign, not necessary allied country, when requested to do so, even in international waters/air space. Obviously this requirement applies only to peactime. The fact that the korean airliner was in Soviet airspace can hardly be said to arrange anything. Ciaran O'Donnell (NOT a French citizen) Centre National d'Etudes de Telecommunications FRANCE