Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site hadron.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!ihnp4!qantel!lll-crg!seismo!rlgvax!hadron!jsdy From: jsdy@hadron.UUCP (Joseph S. D. Yao) Newsgroups: net.followup Subject: Re: Delhi Declaration - A Response to the Nuclear Dilemma Message-ID: <89@hadron.UUCP> Date: Fri, 22-Nov-85 02:10:29 EST Article-I.D.: hadron.89 Posted: Fri Nov 22 02:10:29 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 24-Nov-85 06:15:02 EST References: <1895@orca.UUCP> <2244@umcp-cs.UUCP> <3350@brl-tgr.ARPA> <548@dlvax1.datlog.UUCP> Reply-To: jsdy@hadron.UUCP (Joseph S. D. Yao) Distribution: net Organization: Hadron, Inc., Fairfax, VA Lines: 39 Summary: Per Marx: "we must destroy ..." In article <548@dlvax1.datlog.UUCP> dc@datlog.UUCP ( David Crone ) writes: >In article <3350@brl-tgr.ARPA> wmartin@brl-tgr.ARPA (Will Martin ) writes: > ... The Soviets consider that all their policies are >protecting the motherland. The US/UK axis of world power wanted the communist >system destroyed because it posed a threat to their political and economic >hegemony. This is an interesting statement. My memory on these political things is notoriously fuzzy, given that I think "politics" (when used to refer to the games a few fuzzy thinkers play with the lives of everybody who is unfortunate enough to live nearby) is a dirty word. However, I do seem to recall that it is part of the Marxist and Communist (so-called) governments' credo that they must destroy all other governments. I do not see an economy so poor that they must be consistently buying food from the US/UK "axis of world power" as a serious threat to "political and economic hegemony" (whatever that is seriously intended to mean), except insofar as that economy is in support of a government dedicated to the destruction of others. As far as mutual suspicion goes, this is quite true. The only way this can be overcome is for each state to trust each other. It seems quite difficult for a police state, and one dedicated to destruction, to overcome its natural(?) distrust of another state. For that matter, it seems hard to trust such a state. Lest you flame me for not providing references -- would Soviet watchers out there please provide the documentary corroboration that I know exists? Thanks. BTW: "Communist (so-called)" because the Soviet and Red states are not true ideologically pure communal systems, but are instead Marxist states of the "interim (permanent)" variety. There are only a few true communistic societies, most strongly rejecting Communism, such as monasteries, kibbutzim, and a few local social communes. -- Joe Yao hadron!jsdy@seismo.{CSS.GOV,ARPA,UUCP}