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From: jeffw@midas.UUCP (Jeff Winslow)
Newsgroups: net.followup
Subject: Re: Il accuse...
Message-ID: <58@midas.UUCP>
Date: Mon, 2-Dec-85 00:42:14 EST
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Posted: Mon Dec  2 00:42:14 1985
Date-Received: Thu, 5-Dec-85 06:19:17 EST
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Reply-To: jeffw@midas.UUCP (Jeff Winslow)
Organization: Tektronix, Beaverton OR
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Summary: 

In article <110@ogesml0.UUCP> ciaran@ogesml0.UUCP (ciaran) writes:

>1. I am concerned by content, not with tone. Several people, of
>different nationalities, said that violating frontiers is a "non-violent act".
>This is rubbish -- just wait till someone violates yours and see what
>your army does. Precedents are legion: WW1, the British trawlers/Iceland
>incidents, &c.

Fishing boats that violate frontiers off the Pacific coast are apprehended,
occasionally confiscated, captains fined, etc.

They are not blown up in the harbors of third party countries.

Violating frontiers is strictly against the law, but it is rubbish
to claim that such actions are "violent". (Remember that the Rainbow
Warrior, despite its name, is not a military craft, and is not outfitted
for battle.) Silly overreactions by my country's army or anyone else's
do not change that one bit.

>2. The insinuation that I approve the shooting down of KAL 007
>dishonours only its author. Again, content please not "tone", "form", or other nonsense 

I don't feel particularly dishonored. I understood you to say that
Greenpeace, in having its ship bombed, was reaping the proper harvest
of its frontier-crossing actions. Since you gave KAL007 as an example,
I assumed you believed its case was similar. So you see, it was really
your content that led me to make my statement, and I erred when I
said it was the tone of your article that did so.

And tone or form are not nonsense. They frequently communicate when
the content is ambiguous. As it was, to me, in your article, due
to your somewhat unusual writing style.

Maybe if I knew French we could communicate more effectively...

					Jeff Winslow