Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site mcgill-vision.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!gatech!seismo!cmcl2!philabs!micomvax!musocs!mcgill-vision!mouse From: mouse@mcgill-vision.UUCP (der Mouse) Newsgroups: net.games Subject: Re: noughts and crosses Message-ID: <330@mcgill-vision.UUCP> Date: Wed, 20-Nov-85 18:08:03 EST Article-I.D.: mcgill-v.330 Posted: Wed Nov 20 18:08:03 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 25-Nov-85 07:13:27 EST References: <5933@tektronix.UUCP> Organization: McGill University, Montreal Lines: 45 >In article <1988@bmcg.UUCP> bobn@bmcg.UUCP (Bob Nebert) writes: >>> i'm looking for a better description for >>> the game noughts and crosses. any takers? >>The game is played the way one plays "GO". The idea is to >>get 5 in a row, any angle. >You know naught of what you speak. >First, GO is infinitely more complex than "getting 5 pieces in a row". >The 5 in a row game is Go-moku (or, I think, Pente). >Second, noughts and crosses is the British name for tic-tac-toe. >Paul Hoefling >Information Pack Rat [Clearly a North American; see point 2 ;-] (1) I read "...played the way one plays "GO"" to mean alternating black and white moves on a 19x19 board, usually played on the intersections rather than the squares, not meaning that all the rules of go are borrowed. (2) I found a boardgame book recently (don't have it here, sorry I can't provide ISBN or exact title; mail me if you want me to dig it out) which claims that "noughts and crosses" is the game of three-in-a-row on a 3x3 board, with players playing until the board is full or someone wins (North-American "tic-tac-toe"), while "tic-tac-toe" is actually another, different, game (described below). Must have been a British book (:-); North-American usage (as I'm sure everyone on this side of the pond knows) is that tic-tac-toe is the same thing as what they (the book) call "noughts and crosses". Tic-tac-toe as the book has it is played with three counters for each player on a 3x3 board. The first six moves are as in the other game, each on any open square. After these six moves, the counters move as chess kings, trying to make three-in-a-row. Reminds me of a game I enjoy; the same thing with eight men on a regular chessboard (8x8), trying to make 5 in a row. As far as I know, I invented this game, though it is likely that I found it somewhere and forgot about the original source. (Can anyone confirm this with a published reference?) -- der Mouse USA: {ihnp4,decvax,akgua,etc}!utcsri!mcgill-vision!mouse philabs!micomvax!musocs!mcgill-vision!mouse Europe: mcvax!seismo!cmcl2!philabs!micomvax!musocs!mcgill-vision!mouse Hacker: One responsible for destroying / Wizard: One responsible for recovering it afterward