Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site mips.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!oliveb!Glacier!mips!mash From: mash@mips.UUCP (John Mashey) Newsgroups: net.jobs Subject: Re: Headhunters Message-ID: <230@mips.UUCP> Date: Tue, 19-Nov-85 02:22:49 EST Article-I.D.: mips.230 Posted: Tue Nov 19 02:22:49 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 21-Nov-85 03:44:27 EST References: <206@bnrmtv.UUCP> <1698@uwmacc.UUCP> <61@calma.UUCP> Distribution: na Organization: MIPS Computer Systems, Mountain View, CA Lines: 34 Tim (radzy) Radzykewycz writes: > One problem with this: > If the headhunter sent your resume to a company you decide > to work for within the last six months, your new employer will > have to pay a commision on you irregardless of whether he actually > arranged for anything. This is a problem for a couple of reasons: > 2. Many companies prefer hiring people who are *not* > coming through a recruiter, so giving your resume > to a "dastardly" headhunter may actually hurt your > chances of getting a job ... As a hiring manager, I second this 100%. I've worked with good recruiters were useful and worth every penny; I've run into the other kind. I still prefer to hire most people without. Some more advice: a) After checking out a recruiter, get in writing statement that they won't send resume to anybody without checking with you first. b) If you are going to be contacting some companies on your own, tell them so [out of fairness; don't waste their time]. c) If they find a match for you that you wouldn't have [as hirer or hiree], they've earned their money. d) If you let them make a contact that you would have also, you DEFINITELY hurt your chances for being hired, especially if there's a relocation involved. If somebody walks on water, paying a recruiting fee hasn't bothered me. More than once I've ended up not hiring people (or seeing this happen) where it was "if we weren't paying a fee, we'd hire this person, but they aren't so much better than others we're seeing that we can't afford to wait." Money is money, whether it's spent on fees or equipment. If I spend $10K on a fee, that's a SUN-3 I didn't buy, or a bunch of conference trips nobody got to take. -- -john mashey UUCP: {decvax,ucbvax,ihnp4}!decwrl!mips!mash DDD: 415-960-1200 USPS: MIPS Computer Systems, 1330 Charleston Rd, Mtn View, CA 94043