Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site allegra.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!jpl From: jpl@allegra.UUCP (John P. Linderman) Newsgroups: net.lang.c,net.unix Subject: Re: BOOKS: Advanced UNIX(TM) Programming; Systems Software Tools Message-ID: <5434@allegra.UUCP> Date: Fri, 22-Nov-85 13:11:25 EST Article-I.D.: allegra.5434 Posted: Fri Nov 22 13:11:25 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 24-Nov-85 05:09:03 EST References: <672@hou2a.UUCP> <989@utcs.uucp> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill Lines: 27 Keywords: Marc J. Rochkind, SCCS, ugh, cheap shot Xref: watmath net.lang.c:7156 net.unix:6332 > I have not read Advanced UNIX (TM) Programming by Marc J. Rochkind, > but I do know some of his background: > > Marc J. Rochkind helped write the UNIX re-implementation of SCCS > > and he's still proud of it (unbowed and unrepentant), judging from his > recent advertising. (SCCS originally ran on MVS or MVT, as I recall, > and was rewritten for PWB.) If this means nothing to you, try reading > the SCCS sources or manuals or try using SCCS. And I suppose Thomas Edison was a fool because you have a better sounding turntable than he did. I don't care a lot for SCCS, but it's a whole lot better than nothing, which is what was available when Marc came up with the idea. SCCS has been through a lot of hands since Marc let go of it, so if you don't like the style, you'd better be pretty sure who's responsible before you lay it at Marc's doorstep. Not only are slurs via SCCS unjustified, they are irrelevant. People asked about the book, not for a history of the author. I have read much of the book, and it's top rate. It's rather better suited to Xenix and System V users than to 4.2 folks (4.2 directories and file systems don't look like Marc describes them, for example), but I'd recommend it without hesitation even to Berkelers. It'll take much less time to recover from such minor inaccuracies than it would take to rediscover the useful information that Marc presents. John P. Linderman allegra!jpl