Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site cca.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!mhuxn!mhuxr!ulysses!unc!mcnc!decvax!cca!creedy From: creedy@cca.UUCP (Christopher Reedy) Newsgroups: net.math Subject: Re: Sc--nce Attack (really on minds Message-ID: <4932@cca.UUCP> Date: Fri, 15-Nov-85 09:51:28 EST Article-I.D.: cca.4932 Posted: Fri Nov 15 09:51:28 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 18-Nov-85 06:01:17 EST References: <10810@ucbvax.UUCP> <> Reply-To: creedy@cca.UUCP (Christopher Reedy) Organization: Computer Corp. of America, Cambridge Lines: 26 In article <> marv@ISM780.UUCP writes: > >I claim that a finite sized human (not all information processing is done in >the brain) *does* imply a finite state machine machine. I think that human >information processing involves chemical reactions (a finite number atoms) >and energy tranformations (a finite number of photons) and therfore only a >finite (albeit very large) number of states. > Unfortunately, at this level of interaction, quantum mechanics applies. I.e. results of interactions are non-deterministic. I am not enough of a theoretical physicist to know whether the simulation is still possible using probability distributions. However, it seems like a more sophisticated argument is needed here. > >And surely you don't mean to imply that the amount of information stored in >a finite sized set of librarys is infinite. > A Turing Machine does not have infinite memory in the sense you imply. The amount of memory that is in use at any point in time by a Turing machine is finite, even though it can grow without bound over the life of the computation. I am not convinced that this is any different from the memory that is available to a person who has the capability to research for any information that is available in any library anywhere. Chris Reedy