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From: dave@cylixd.UUCP (Dave Kirby)
Newsgroups: net.med
Subject: Re: Lung Display in Waiting Room
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Date: Wed, 13-Nov-85 12:09:40 EST
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Posted: Wed Nov 13 12:09:40 1985
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Summary: Dave Kirby's reply to Byron Howes' reply to Dave Kirby

[DAVE] Spencer Gifts and other specialty shops offer a "lung ashtray,"
which is a plain ashtray with a clear hollow plastic model of a lung
suspended over it to catch the smoke and cloud up. A very graphic
deterrent to smokers (at least, to those who think). These should be
required in any doctor's or hospital's waiting room.


[BYRON] No. These only make people who are already non-smokers feel smug.
When I was a smoker they actually served to remeind me of how much
I wanted a cigarette.   Perhaps, as dave suggests, I was a non-thinking
smoker.   Still, the objective is to make all smokers quit, isn't it,
whether they are non-thinking or thinking.


[DAVE] Thanks for a very interesting insight. If a lung ashtray only
served to remind you of how much you wanted a cigarette, obviously my
suggestion is not going to work as a deterrent. My implication that
"thinking smokers" would be deterred is also disproven by your
observations, since obviously you were thinking at the time you were
reminded of how bad you wanted a cigarette. Apparently the desire for
a cigarette is not a logically based desire, and attempts to deal with
it logically (i.e., "convince you it is harmful and you will quit") will
not work. But this raises the question, What IS the best way to deal
with it? Or is there ANYTHING a non-smoker can do to influence a smoker
to quit; perhaps it must be the smoker's decision, and there is no way
to influence it from the outside?

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