Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site sfmag.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!sfmag!wws From: wws@sfmag.UUCP (Bill Stohl) Newsgroups: net.med Subject: Re: The tooth -- the truth. Message-ID: <784@sfmag.UUCP> Date: Thu, 21-Nov-85 16:51:11 EST Article-I.D.: sfmag.784 Posted: Thu Nov 21 16:51:11 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 23-Nov-85 01:34:52 EST References: <2044@aecom.UUCP> Distribution: na Organization: AT&T Information Systems, Summit, NJ Lines: 96 I am mailing this for Walt Stoll who is having a terrible time with postnews and line noise at present-- his email address is cbosgd!ukma!wws Bill Stoll, ihnp4!attunix!wws ------------- cut here ------------- Craig Werner says: "I don't believe in letting incorrect information go unchallenged". I'm afraid I share the same compulsion. However, I also have no need to "shake a dead rat to pieces". There are lots more rats to kill. Therefore, unless some new data become available, this will likely be my last communication on this subject. > > >From Wheater, et al. _Functional_Histology_ 1982 edition, p, 175. > > The structure of mature enamel is not fully understood,...leaving > > the enamel exposed to the hostile oral environments, completely incapable > of regeneration. > > [Let me repeat the last line: completely incapable of regeneration.] > [Let me translate the first: Microtubules are organic matter (made up of > protein). If < 1% of the matrix is organic, that rules out the presence of > microtubules, even if you don't beleive me that they only occur within > cells - which they do.] > [Incidentally, the text was accompanied by the Micrographs, so that one > could look and account for all the layers with one's own eyes.] > > Hence we're back to Stoll's claim that microtubular "flow" > regenerates Enamel being incompatible with the available evidence. I > don't think he's being malicious in this respect - he's just repeated > someone else's claim. > -- According to all KNOWN aerodynamic principles, the bumblebee cannot fly. Yet it does. Statements like this drive people like Craig Werner crazy. I think I'll throw in another one for good measure: "The appearance of one sparrow proves the existance of birds". The fact is: regeneration of enamel has been observed to occur. If the Craig Werners of the world can come up with a better explanation of how that happens, I'll be among the first to listen. Until then, the following information from the very first attempt to observe, and explain, the phenomenon (Dr. Steinmann's work in the 1960's), still has not been superceded: There is a necessary relationship between the parotid and pituitary glands for the mechanism to function. Apparently, this is the mechanism through which the general state of health of the individual influences whether enamel will be replaced or not. Refined sugars upset the system---this is in addition to the surface etching the current paradigm would have us believe is the ONLY mechanism. The history of medicine is replete with mechanisms which, at first understanding, seemed simple. Later on, as we understood better we, almost invariably, learned that the MECHANISMS were far more complicated and integrated with the function of the rest of the body. Fluid flow can be measured through the odontoblastic tubules and continuing into the enamel. Mineral tracers can trace the minerals continuing into the enamel from their transporting through the odont. tubules first. If bacteria become established on the surface of the enamel and begin producing acids and chelating agents as their life processes, there will be a leaching of minerals from the enamel surface. This is the beginning of the decay process. However, this is a reversable process just as etching the enamel surface is. IF STOPPED BEFORE THE "MATRIX" BREAKS DOWN, NEW MINERALS CAN FILL IN THE VOIDS AND THE TOOTH WILL REMAIN COMPLETE ON THE SURFACE. Once a section breaks down, however, that part of the scaffolding is broken out and will not be replaceable. The surface can be "hardened" both from surface remineralization (which explains the observed remineralization from surface fluoride application) and from under the surface through the above explained effective mechanism (possibly also aided systemically by fluoride supplementation). If Craig could spend more time observing the human body he would be much less likely to think it can be explained by what is already written in books. Try having exactly the same conversation, about some significant mechanism involving human function, with a newly trained physician and a physician who has been out in practice for 30 years. There was a time when I too believed that medical science knew most of what there was to learn about the human being. I now know that we have barely begun to scratch the surface. Craig will learn. I have great hopes for that boy. Walt Stoll, cbosgd!ukma!wws Holistic Medical Centre 1412 N. Broadway Lexington, KY 40505 (606)233-4273 "You are more than you think"