Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site utastro.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!gatech!ut-sally!utastro!jk From: jk@utastro.UUCP (John Krist) Newsgroups: net.micro.16k Subject: Gee, 68k lovers in .16k; DSI news and optimizer Message-ID: <136@utastro.UUCP> Date: Thu, 5-Dec-85 12:47:12 EST Article-I.D.: utastro.136 Posted: Thu Dec 5 12:47:12 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 6-Dec-85 07:52:50 EST Organization: U. Texas, Astronomy, Austin, TX Lines: 50 Keywords: If I knew people were going to yell at me... Golly gee-whiz, Batman! People sure don't like the NS 32000 series. It seems there's a bunch of 68k lovers sneaking onto net.micro.16k. I've gotten my share of hate mail. Will those with 32000 series chips in their computers mind speaking up and telling me what they think about it? Mr. Gilmore seems unimpressed with the optimizer on the C and Fortran compilers. The compilers are highly optimizing without specifying the optimizer at compile time. It's just that setting the optimizer seems to invoke the "let's make the code a little longer for more speed" mode of the compilers. I correction to my first review: The graphics demo required loading the ANSI.SYS file in order to switch modes. My mistake. Sorry. The Thousand Oaks BBS does work, and I have used it about 3 times to get new info and to talk to the DSI tech persons. * The Dhrystone benchmark results will take a little time to bring to those who wanted them. Right now, to use the UNIX times and time functions, you have to have a Interupt Control Unit on the board and the appropriate loader software to use it. The DSI people have told me that a revised loader is almost done which will make use of the MSDOS timer. Meanwhile, I have mailed the Dhrystone to them to run on their machine. * The UNIX being tested is Version 7. You need a ICU and MMU to run it. ( I don't see the need for UNIX when the MSDOS shell is fine. ) The graphics interface is being developed for the Hercules and EGA cards. This will allow multiple screens to be set up in DSI memory and dumped into IBM memory. I must say that the people at Definicon have been very helpful, and I am very impressed with their help. They also have assurred me that they will stay up to date with new NS 32000 products. For those who seem sick and tired of me talking about this on the net, I am just excited about the product and impressed with what it offers for the price. All you 68k people seem to have your noses stuck in in the air when someone mentions the 32032, but who had a working full 32 bitter when Mota and others of similar INTELlect were in development ( Don't tell me of the 486, 'cause I don't see it around anywhere). I can't wait for those 68k flames! Ready and waiting, John Krist U. Texas Astronomy Dept. (jk@utastro.UUCP)