Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!lll-crg!lll-lcc!vecpyr!amd!amdcad!decwrl!ucbvax!anton From: anton@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU (Jeff Anton) Newsgroups: net.micro.amiga Subject: Re: MMUs versus memory protection Message-ID: <11032@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Tue, 19-Nov-85 23:41:55 EST Article-I.D.: ucbvax.11032 Posted: Tue Nov 19 23:41:55 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 23-Nov-85 10:04:21 EST References: <461@caip.RUTGERS.EDU> Reply-To: anton@ucbvax.UUCP (Jeff Anton) Organization: University of California at Berkeley Lines: 45 Hear! Hear! If the Amiga had memory bounds checks on processes in hardware (and low level documentation) I'll have burnt $$$ on it by now. I've been waiting for a SUN to appear in my bedroom for too long. Maybe I'm behind the times, but I want a system that will do what I command it to do. And I've the talent to command at all levels of a system. I want to be given a chance to add my own hardware and system software to support it. Having written an editor, lisp interpreter, modem communications package, etc. for my CP/M system I want to keep my software. Much of system software for small systems is convoluted or lazy. I may want to add kernel level networking or something big like that. I'm saddened to find that so many people who are getting their first tastes of programming are satisfied by blistor packed, sanatized, and user handholding systems. Give me a good compiler, a bus extender, and a logic probe instead. These small systems are approching increadable power; but, like video games, the power is always special cased or just raw. I suspect that today's Amiga if it had 1 Meg of memory + hard disk + memory protection, would surpass the performance of systems MUCH more expensive. It's inevitable I guess when the vulture capitalists target their work on one type of buyer. I want to sell the following stickers: Mac: When I grow up, I want to be a SUN Amiga: When I grow up, I want to be an IRIS ST: No respect PC: Trust me, I'm here to help you. INTEL: Which way did they go? Which way did they go? ATT: It has to be a standard, we built it. System V: If it weren't a standard, it would be sub-standard. It looks like I'll be getting a SUN in maybe a year. Or maybe I'll wait for the Cray on a chip Bill Joy predicts will exist in 1987, is in a machine. -- C knows no bounds. Jeff Anton U.C.Berkeley Ingres Group ucbvax!anton anton@BERKELEY.EDU