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From: murlocker@water.UUCP (M. Urlocker)
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Subject: Re: copy protection (LONG)
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Date: Thu, 14-Nov-85 12:07:16 EST
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Posted: Thu Nov 14 12:07:16 1985
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> > > Here are some program cracks for various Macintosh applications.
> > > ...etc.
> > > 
> >   [ Suggestions for beating copy protection schemes were here ]
> > 
> >  Hmmmmm.  Seems to me that this kind of thing is slightly innappropriate
> > for the net.  Besides, Sonny would never condone it.  And by the way,
> > there is no need to 'beat' "Griffon Terminal"(sic), since it isn't copy-
> > protected any more.
> > 
>
> There is one instance, however, where copy protection is permissable,
> however, and which may actually INCREASE the value of the product. This is
> in the case of games. Generally, games do not require back-up dtat disk,
> and do not make effective use of a hard disk, nor do they really need any
> extra utilities such as disk caches and ramdisks. The reason why copy
>  etc...

I disagree!  I bought Sargon III and later a hard disk and discovered I
couldn't get Sargon to work with it.  Once you get used to the speed and
convenience of a hard disk, you really don't want to go back to the 
hassle of booting a floppy.  Moreover the copy protection can inhibit
the use of things like switcher or ram disks.  With the performance of
most software on the mac, developers should *encourage* the use of ram
disks, caches, etc, because it makes the product perform significantly
better, leading to more satisfied customers.

I could backup Sargon with CopyII Mac, without difficulty, (so could any
pirate!) but I couldn't get it legitimately on the hard disk until the
"crack" was posted.

I think it is the duty of every software vendor to supply a means of 
installing the software on the hard disk without requiring insertion of
the master floppy.  I won't buy *any* program that cannot be used with
my hard disk.

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