Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 SMI; site sun.uucp Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!oliveb!Glacier!decwrl!sun!chuq From: chuq@sun.uucp (Chuq Von Rospach) Newsgroups: net.micro.mac Subject: Re: net.sources.mac and shareware (problems and solutions) Message-ID: <3006@sun.uucp> Date: Mon, 18-Nov-85 14:53:32 EST Article-I.D.: sun.3006 Posted: Mon Nov 18 14:53:32 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 21-Nov-85 03:40:24 EST References: <2998@sun.uucp> <2237@amdahl.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: Sun Micro -- NFS Consulting Group Lines: 31 > > ... It's time to > > stop posting binaries, folks -- we simply don't need them anymore. > > What about the new MacOwners who don't have all the binaries yet? When > I first got my mac, net.sources.mac was indespensable in making it > a usable machine. What about those who don't have a compiler yet? > Those who don't want to lay out $N, where N is large, for M, > where M is large, different environments/compilers? Perhaps we want to ship both source and binary, if the binary isn't huge. The new Macowner is a small enough part fo teh group that we can handle them as we go (look at how few requests for downloading software we're getting on the net). If we always aim at catering to the lowest base of knowledge, we'll never teach each other to be experts. Here is a great case in point: Jeff Shulman at topaz posts three messages of Diatom in net.sources.mac. To quote, "I wrote it to learn how to make the Mac do all the wonderful things it does". What he posted was a binary, a doc file, and a configuration file. Great. He learned how to do lots of wonderful things, and I have a program binary that prints pretty pictures. If I had a source, I could learn how to print pretty picutres myself, but he didn't post the source, so I can't. He gains, but nobody else can share in it without decompiling his program. I don't see how this helps out the new user. Or even the not so new user... chuq -- :From the Crystal Caves of Avalon: Chuq Von Rospach sun!chuq@decwrl.DEC.COM {hplabs,ihnp4,nsc,pyramid}!sun!chuq Our time is past -- it is a time for men, not of magic.