Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 (Tek) 9/28/84 based on 9/17/84; site tekig4.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!tekig5!tekig4!briand From: briand@tekig4.UUCP (Brian Diehm) Newsgroups: net.micro.mac Subject: Re: Boston font Message-ID: <407@tekig4.UUCP> Date: Tue, 19-Nov-85 13:10:53 EST Article-I.D.: tekig4.407 Posted: Tue Nov 19 13:10:53 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 21-Nov-85 05:38:14 EST References: <480@harvard.ARPA> <1087@arthur.purdue.UUCP> Reply-To: briand@tekig4Diehm.UUCP (Brian Diehm) Distribution: net Organization: Tektronix, Beaverton OR Lines: 35 Summary: In article <1087@arthur.purdue.UUCP> sbm@purdue.UUCP (Steven B. Munson) writes: > Just one other thing--I was surprised to see that, even though >Pellucida follows all the rules of readability (at least those >mentioned in the article; I'm no expert), I consider it to be kind of >ugly-looking. I guess there is a difference between readability and >good looks. I would welcome further comments; I find this intriguing >after taking for granted the fonts I see every day. Actually, the example of Pellucida does NOT follow all the rules they state. Furthermore, I thik Pellucida, at least from the examples they show in the article, is totally unreadable. Some of the specific examples of improvements actually make the silly thing harder to read. A few years ago I heard a talk by representatives of a major type-designing house in Germany. I came away convinced that the human factors associated with typeface design are complex, often counter-intuitive, and generally make the whole discipline an art form. The attitude of these people was that Donald Knuth, and the tex/metafont system, revealed the depth of their in- norance in the field. I've noticed more recently that Douglas Hofstadter (sp?) has discussed this, but has more cautiously limited himself pretty much to revealing the depth and dimensions of the problem. The impression I got from the MacWorld article was that these people are very eager and able - but they're amateurs. That doesn't mean they won't be quite successful someday, but the examples they showed and the principles they laid out are either extremely fundamental, or just plain wrong. The alternate possibility is that their work will be successful, and the very concept held by society of letter forms will evolve in their directions. I personally think the computers should evolve in our direction, not the other way around! -Brian Diehm Tektronix, Inc. (which corporation doesn't design typefaces!)