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Subject: Re: Getin' Satisfaction
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Date: Sat, 16-Nov-85 02:50:48 EST
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Posted: Sat Nov 16 02:50:48 1985
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Ken Ardnt says:
> Well, I feel the same way about homosexuality as I do about masturbation.  It
> falls short of what sex is all about.  To the extent that the homosexuals make
> it my business by touting an 'alternative lifestyle' with 'rights' I oppose
> what I view as their lack of understanding of what sex is all about.  I think
> that they are actually anti-sex!!!!  Self destructive sexual behavior is what
> they are actually doing.  I feel sorry for them for their loss of sexuality
> and while they themselves are not really funny their pretensions to being
> an expression of human sexuality that has fulfillment for either a man or
> a woman IS funny.  They can never have anything more than two members of the
> same sex masturbating each other - just another pair of hands!  That ole 
> biological problem for the man of WHERE do you put it, and for the woman
> WHAT do you put in it?  Or are we just left with fanning it?

I would be interested in a proof on how gay sexual behaviour is self-
destructive. I engage in it with my lover, and I have found that it is
constructive; the physical act is only one aspect of it. I guess I don't
believe in sex, only making love. A bonding occurs (or should, in my
opinion) when such an act is performed. I'm afraid that Mr. Ardnt is the
one who seems to lack understanding of what the act is all about.

He also evidences a lack of understanding in what exactly occurs in
homosexual acts.

> I draw the line.  It IS a
> perversion of what being a sexual human being is about.  It may feel good,
> be fun, etc. but it ain't sexual fulfullment any way you cut it.  To say
> it is is to move into comedy.  

I'd be interested in a proof demonstrating that it is a perversion. Such 
behaviour occurs elsewhere in nature (it's been observed in marine mammals
and avian species among other). And who is he to say what sexual fulfilment
(or fulfullment, as he says)is anyway? What may be fulfilling for him may not
be for others. I'm afraid Mr. Ardnt lack the quality of empathy.

> 
> And then there's AIDS.  Human sexual activity, homosexual or heterosexual,
> that insists that the lower bowel is a sexual organ thereby creates the
> vector for many diseases.  AIDS = anal intercourse of course.  That's why
> it hits homosexuals most in this country - and heterosexuals in third world
> countries.  Safe sex indeed.  How about REAL sex children???

Again, can he prove his assertion? Anal intercourse is not the only way to
communicate the disease, and it may not be the only factor. The condition
of the immune system at the time the virus is introduced to the body may
be a factor as well.

Mr. Ardnt makes many assertions, but I think the proof for the, if it exists,
is flimsy at best. It is nice to see something written by him which is
halfway decent though. That's nice.