Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site emacs.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!petrus!bellcore!decvax!wanginst!infinet!emacs!joe From: joe@emacs.UUCP (Joe Chapman) Newsgroups: net.motss Subject: Re: Thus saith the Lord Message-ID: <119@emacs.UUCP> Date: Mon, 18-Nov-85 17:12:22 EST Article-I.D.: emacs.119 Posted: Mon Nov 18 17:12:22 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 23-Nov-85 01:57:02 EST References: <482@isucs1.UUCP> <255@ptsfb.UUCP> <281@ucdavis.UUCP><259@ptsfb.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: Uniworks Inc., Wellesley, MA Lines: 28 <> >>In Romans, Paul actually condemns homosexual acts by heterosexual people. It >>is natural for gay people to be attracted to the same sex. What is condemned >>in the passage is going against one's natural inclination. > >How do you know what the author considered "natural inclination"? I think you're both starting to argue off in the wrong direction. In the passage in question, St. Paul is condemning the Romans for embracing and then abandoning the true religion. The "burning in lust" portion of the argument is used as an analogy, not as the topic. The natural inclination which is being discussed is not sexual, rather it is the inclination of the soul, which for the Apostle was towards Christianity. Furthermore, "natural inclination" is a risky phrase to use in this context as our concept of "natural law" had not yet been formulated. The point which I'm trying to make, and which I tried to imply in my last posting on the subject, is that a theological or ethical judgement requires a great deal more effort than isolated quotation from a translation of Holy Scripture. I can't imagine that throwing fragments of the Epistles about to justify everything from homophobia to the MX missile to the burning of Beach Boys records can even be considered good *fundamentalist* theology. -- Joe Chapman Geraldine: "I must be a boy. I like girls." decvax!cca!emacs!joe Dr. Rance: "I can't quite follow the joe@cca-unix.arpa reasoning there."