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From: on@hpda.UUCP (Owen Rowley)
Newsgroups: net.motss
Subject: Re: Re.Re. Gettin' Satisfaction, a rebuttal
Message-ID: <1242@hpda.UUCP>
Date: Mon, 25-Nov-85 14:25:16 EST
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Posted: Mon Nov 25 14:25:16 1985
Date-Received: Mon, 2-Dec-85 03:28:33 EST
References: <1447@decwrl.UUCP> <325@ucdavis.UUCP> <2874@pesnta.UUCP>
Reply-To: on@hpda.UUCP (Owen Rowley)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Cupertino, CA
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Keywords: Enough already

In article <2874@pesnta.UUCP> kima@pesnta.UUCP (Kim Althoff) writes:
>Articles attacking homosexuality and responses defending the same
>seem to be inundating this newsgroup.  It displeases me greatly that
>some people feel that homosexuality is a sin or that it is unnatural.
>But it is not proper to use this newsgroup to discuss the rightness
>or wrongness of homosexuality.  This newsgroup has been established
>to discuss the issues of homosexuality.  As such, it is an excellent
>place to discuss AIDS, ARC, pertinent legal issues, advice, and many
>other fine topics.

I beg your pardon:
I couldn't disagree with you more.
First,  whats the difference between misinformed non-gays telling us
it is improper to  engage in gay sex, and your unilateral edict about 
what is not proper to discuss within the confines of this group.

>But when someone finds they have a problem because of their homosexuality
>and they wish to use this newsgroup to discuss it, then any replies
>given should concentrate on the idea that the problem should be 
>resolved with a homosexual solution (i.e. it is improper to suggest
>that the person should try heterosexuality). 

I think that we are being should on , altogether too much in this statement.

>Unless the readers
>of this newsgroup stop responding to attacks, they will probably
>increase, both in frequency and intensity.  As important as this
>newsgroup is to me, I will stop reading it if it breaks down to
>mere "yes, we are", "no, you aren't" type articles.

To live a Gay lifestyle in the current culture, is to be exposed to
homophobic attacks on a daily basis. This electronic medium affords 
many otherwise shy  people  an opportunity to confront the source of
their opression without fear of physical reprisal. 
Being dissatisfied with the tone or content of a newsgroup is a good reason
to unsubscribe, and I heartily reccomend you do so if you don't like 
what you read. You can even take your ball(s) with you when you go.
I suspect that your threat to leave if others don't conform to your
plan for net.motss  will elicit more negative reaction than positive.


>
>Please, if you wish to provide rebuttal to an offensive article or
>wish to respond to an article in a way that denies homosexuality,
>please mail to the person involved.  Please do not post the article
>for others to continue a debate that for many of us is not relevant
>to the issue (that being topics about homosexuality).

Please if you wish to be in charge of telling other people how to
live their lives, please join the rest of your kind in net.politics.
And for heavens sake don't work the  bigots up into a lather, you know
how they get. 

In all seriousness (as it has unfortunatly turned out to be)
I personally find it cleansing and   empowering to confront bigots
and homophobes. I know that there are others who disagree with me 
and this group is an OPEN FORUM where everyone caan express  their
opinion. would You give us that freedom or take it away.
LUX .. on
Owen Rowley
hpda!on