Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site hadron.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!ucbvax!ucdavis!lll-crg!seismo!rlgvax!hadron!jsdy From: jsdy@hadron.UUCP (Joseph S. D. Yao) Newsgroups: net.news.config Subject: Re: Glacier becomes glacier Message-ID: <113@hadron.UUCP> Date: Sat, 30-Nov-85 20:47:46 EST Article-I.D.: hadron.113 Posted: Sat Nov 30 20:47:46 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 1-Dec-85 10:14:12 EST References: <1626@glacier.ARPA> <629@down.FUN> <794@umd5.UUCP> Reply-To: jsdy@hadron.UUCP (Joseph S. D. Yao) Organization: Hadron, Inc., Fairfax, VA Lines: 35 Summary: Politics, politics, politics The only reasons to have multiple names for a machine are: (1) politics, (2) a bad technical implementation of name handling (that can't handle the "true" name of the machine), (3) politics, and (4) politics. Machines started calling themselves foo.ARPA and fum.BITNET as part of the domain concept. The domain concept, however, has nothing whatsoever to do with routing. The idea behind the domain concept (which you should read in RFC 92?, rather than taking my word for it) is that each machine should have a unique name within its subdomain, which ... which should have a unique name within its own domain. Any machine may have a routing table for any other machines, despite number or lack of common subdomains. If there is no routing for the machine, then the sending machine should have a routing for a routing machine in one of the domains or subdomains, which latter machine should then be able to route messages down to the recipient machine. In other words, UMDU.UMD.EDU is a reasonable name whether you're routing a machine over BITNET or ARPANET or whatnot, according to the domain concept. Any name conversion needed by the hardware should be done by the software. Realities include the fact that the domain concept is not fully implemented, and many sites still do not conform to it for technical or political reasons or just from lack of understanding (or caring) about the domain standard. I should also mention that not everybody agrees what it means or that it is good, although most people who have a grasp of the naming problem agree that It Is a Problem, and Something Should Be Done About It. -- Joe Yao hadron!jsdy@seismo.{CSS.GOV,ARPA,UUCP}