Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site phri.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!ihnp4!pesnta!phri!roy From: roy@phri.UUCP (Roy Smith) Newsgroups: net.news.group Subject: Rich Rosen costs the net $10,000 Message-ID: <2028@phri.UUCP> Date: Sat, 23-Nov-85 17:24:34 EST Article-I.D.: phri.2028 Posted: Sat Nov 23 17:24:34 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 24-Nov-85 07:44:16 EST References: <10108@tardis.UUCP> <949@unmvax.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: Public Health Research Inst. (NY, NY) Lines: 37 Original-Subject: Re: Proposed deletion of Rich Rosen (AND MORE) I recently read somewhere that if Rich Rosen were a site, he would be number 2 in total volume. Well folks, it seems that he *is* a site. Over the past two weeks, he produced every single article to come out of pyuxd, which is indeed the number 2 site. Can't we loose this clown? From the latest mod.newslists postings by seismo!rick: +--- | No. of % of | Rank Articles Kbytes Total Site | 2 96 226.5 2.3% pyuxd.UUCP (Bell Comm. Research, Piscataway (PY)) | | No. of % of | Rank Articles KBytes Total User | 2 96 226.5 2.3% rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) +--- Assume the typical site expires news in 1 week. Rich is thus using an average of 113 kbytes at every site. Last time I counted (14-Sept-85), there were 3897 sites in the uucp map; call it an even 4000 by now. That's a total of about 450 Mbytes world-wide. I've been pricing disks lately; a 380 Mbyte (formatted capacity) eagle from a "discount" supplier for $8k is the best buy I can find, which works out to about $21/Mbyte. Thus, the net has collectively donated some $9500 to Rich so he can spew forth all that crap. The 7 day average expiration is probably low; the default value in the 2.10.2 distribution is 14 days. Most sites probably don't get that good a deal on disks; RA-81's for example, or Eagles bought from Sun, list at about $40/Mbyte. Sites with smaller or older disks probably paid much more. Thus the cost is probably much higher, and I havn't even considered the biggie: phone bills. Is he really worth it? Maybe we should start a new group: mod.rosen. :-) -- Roy Smith System Administrator, Public Health Research Institute 455 First Avenue, New York, NY 10016