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From: bandy@lll-crg.ARpA (Andrew Scott Beals)
Newsgroups: net.news.group,net.jokes.d
Subject: newgroup mod.jokes && rmgroup net.jokes
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Date: Wed, 27-Nov-85 17:59:43 EST
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Posted: Wed Nov 27 17:59:43 1985
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Hi folks.

So far I've collected 20 yes "votes", 4 qualified affirmatives, 4 nos
and one undecided (well, I could tell he was saying yes/no just not which
one he was saying).

Matt Crawford, replying to a followup to my original article volunteered
to moderate mod.jokes (didn't I see something from him saying that they
were going to be selling off oddjob soon?). He is one of the <5 people
who want to keep net.jokes. He suggested that I filter thru net.jokes,
post those and he gets the mod.jokes mail. Nice offer guy..

Here's what I plan to do:

1. rmgroup net.jokes
2. newgroup mod.jokes

Mod.jokes will have the following policy:

	a. If I have a copy of the joke in my archive, it won't be posted.
	b. The archives will be available if you send me a tape and a SASE.
	c. Rotate all jokes that could be deemed to be offensive (language,
	   ethnic groups, etc) and put a rot13 in the header.
	d. Copyrighted material will not be posted. (Unless, of course, I see
	   a physical note from the copyright holder that it's okay)
	e. If it isn't funny, then it isn't going to be posted. Jokes will
	   NOT be rejected because they are "offensive".

On point e (above), I have a problem with that - sometimes my brain is out
to lunch (ie I didn't get the "Shutup kid, the turkey's almost done." joke
until it was explained to me). It is necessary so we don't have people sending
in binhex'ed versions of core dumps and then whining when they don't get
posted. What I want to avoid are the Yet Another Small Pun On Someone's
Small Pun On Someone's... Type of things (ie "Modem joke"). However, I
certainly wouldn't want to reject a posting because it didn't strike
/me/ as funny (would anyone like to be a second-level joke evaluation
committee who could get the "this isn't funny" rejects and come back to
me with reasons why it should be posted?).

Several people expressed concern that mod.jokes would take a significant
amount of time. Really? I've noticed that net.jokes has a fairly low
bandwidth and I expect that if people have to actually think just a wee
little bit, then incoming mod.jokes traffic should be fairly low.

I'm perhaps willing to consider repostings (maybe even periodic) of
canonical material (with a suitably marked subject header). However, if
you can get the archives, why do you want reposts?

Someone also was concerned that I might get tired of reading cruft. Well,
rest assured that I've been filtering net.jokes for myself and a few friends
for a few years now...
-- 
There once was a fellow named Moorehead,
Who had an affair with a warhead.
  His wife moved away
  The very next day--
She /was/ always kind of a sorehead.

andy beals - bandy@lll-crg.arpa - {seismo,ihnp4!sun,dual}!lll-crg!bandy