Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles; site iuvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!inuxc!iubugs!iuvax!reilly From: reilly@iuvax.UUCP Newsgroups: net.nlang Subject: Re: Double 'R' Message-ID: <7100021@iuvax.UUCP> Date: Fri, 15-Nov-85 23:18:00 EST Article-I.D.: iuvax.7100021 Posted: Fri Nov 15 23:18:00 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 19-Nov-85 03:20:15 EST References: <2176@brl-tgr.UUCP> Lines: 10 Nf-ID: #R:brl-tgr:-217600:iuvax:7100021:000:564 Nf-From: iuvax!reilly Nov 15 23:18:00 1985 It is a fact that /r/ and /l/ vary widely when comparing one language to another. For example, an /l/ might phonetically be a fricative in one language, and, as in English, be a glide. This is not the case for a sounds like /s/, of which we can say with confidence that it has certain phonetic properties (energy concentrated above 4000 Hz) and certain phonological ones (is syllabic if any fricatives within a langauge are syllabic). Thus I would be skeptical of any such universal concerning an /r/ or /l/, simply because the category of manner varies widely.