Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site rtech.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!nsc!amdahl!rtech!jeff From: jeff@rtech.UUCP (Jeff Lichtman) Newsgroups: net.nlang Subject: Re: Pet Peeves (really pronunciation of "nuclear") Message-ID: <750@rtech.UUCP> Date: Mon, 18-Nov-85 01:23:36 EST Article-I.D.: rtech.750 Posted: Mon Nov 18 01:23:36 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 19-Nov-85 03:57:42 EST References: <747@cyb-eng.UUCP> <1900005@datacube.UUCP> Organization: Relational Technology, Alameda CA Lines: 46 > In article <644@spar.UUCP> ellis@spar.UUCP (Michael Ellis) writes: > >>How about "nuclear" pronounced "noo-que-lur", as if spelled "noocuulur"? > >> - David Schachter > > > Phonetically, this is a simple swapping of two adjacent consonants: > > nuclear /nuwkl0y0r/ vs nucular? /nuwky0l0r/ > > This isn't the case. The "correct" pronunciation of "nuclear" not > /nuwklOyOr/, which has the only accent on the first syllable, but > instead it is /nuwkliyOr/, with the accent on the second syllable > (the one in question) and the [liy] sounds clearly enunciated. I have never heard "nuclear" pronounced with the accent on the second syllable, and none of the dictionaries I just looked in (including Webster's 2nd and Chamber's Etymological English Dictionary) list it even as an alternate pronunciation. > > I think that the reasons this particular example bothers people are: > 1. It is (supposedly) only pronounced /nuwkyOlOr/ by uneducated > people, and these are a large group of the people who form > the "anti-nukes" groups. (Before sending flames, please read on. > I'll get back to this.) > > Item 1 seems to mean that the people who don't know anything > about nuclear engineering and nuclear technology are trying > to make the decisions about policy -- a no-good way of doing > business. > Tim (radzy) Radzykewycz, The Incredible Radical Cabbage Jimmy Carter pronounces the word incorrectly. Before he was governor of Georgia he was a nuclear engineer. You'd think he would know better, but all this proves is that he knows more about building nuclear power plants than he does about pronouncing English. I had not noticed that more anti-nuke people than pro-nuke people mispronounce the word "nuclear", nor had I ever heard or read anyone complain that anti- nuke people show their ignorance of the issues by not bothering to learn how to pronounce the word. Tim, can you substantiate your claim? Or is it just a prejudice of yours? -- Jeff Lichtman at rtech (Relational Technology, Inc.) "Saints should always be judged guilty until they are proved innocent..." {amdahl, sun}!rtech!jeff {ucbvax, decvax}!mtxinu!rtech!jeff