Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83 (MC840302); site boring.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!gatech!ut-sally!seismo!mcvax!boring!lambert From: lambert@boring.UUCP Newsgroups: net.nlang Subject: Re: Boontling Message-ID: <6697@boring.UUCP> Date: Fri, 29-Nov-85 07:55:59 EST Article-I.D.: boring.6697 Posted: Fri Nov 29 07:55:59 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 30-Nov-85 14:16:54 EST References: <752@rtech.UUCP> <408@hounx.UUCP> <92@brl-tgr.ARPA> <1624@cae780.UUCP> Reply-To: lambert@boring.UUCP (Lambert Meertens) Organization: CWI, Amsterdam Lines: 39 Keywords: creole Summary: Gullah is not like Boontling, but what about Cockney? Apparently-To: rnews@mcvax.LOCAL > In article <92@brl-tgr.ARPA> wmartin@brl-tgr.ARPA (Will Martin ) writes: >> Is "boontling" unique, or are there other regional languages like it? [...] > > Does "gullah (sp?)", the "language" around Charleston SC and the nearby > islands count? I guess what makes Boontling rather unique is the following: (1) It did not evolve "naturally", but was made up by a conscious collective effort; (2) The purpose of the exercise was/is to create something unintelligible to outsiders; (3) The language is used in everyday life by a sizable community. I put (2) in so that artificial languages like Esperanto will not qualify (even though I doubt any of these would pass the everyday-life aspect of (3)). Note that (2) without (1) makes no sense. Gullah is a creole language; it is comparable to many such languages spoken all over the world (e.g., on many of the Caribbean islands, in the Camerouns and Sierra Leone, on the Philippines). All in all, some eighty creole languages have been identified. These languages evolved when by some socially disruptive process people were put together who did not share a common language. The strong mutual likeness of all creoles makes it clear that the process by which then a common language springs up is a natural process; invented languages are much more diverse *and* usually much more like some natural language that served as a model. It seems to me that Cockney satisfies the criteria (1)-(3). Literature: Pidginization and Creolization of Languages (D. Hymes, ed.), Cambridge University Press, 1971. D. Bickerton, Creole Languages, Scientific American, July 1983, 116-122. -- Lambert Meertens ...!{seismo,okstate,garfield,decvax,philabs}!lambert@mcvax.UUCP CWI (Centre for Mathematics and Computer Science), Amsterdam