Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site gargoyle.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!gargoyle!carnes From: carnes@gargoyle.UUCP (Richard Carnes) Newsgroups: net.nlang,net.origins Subject: Re: Days of the week (esp. Saturday) Message-ID: <266@gargoyle.UUCP> Date: Fri, 6-Dec-85 17:51:46 EST Article-I.D.: gargoyle.266 Posted: Fri Dec 6 17:51:46 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 7-Dec-85 19:50:04 EST References: <174@watmath.UUCP> <262@ho95e.UUCP> <674@spar.UUCP> <1328@jhunix.UUCP> Reply-To: carnes@gargoyle.UUCP (Richard Carnes) Organization: U. of Chicago, Computer Science Dept. Lines: 50 Xref: watmath net.nlang:3863 net.origins:2687 Summary: >> And why do we call it `saturday' rather than >> `leyday/lowday', which is what I suspect would be the AngloSaxon >> equivalent of Danish `loerdag' if it had survived? > >... I think it may have something >to do with the "Romanization" of the language by the Normans after 1066. No -- it is related to the fact that the British Isles did not come under Christian influence until several centuries after most of the rest of Europe. The origin of the 7-day week is an interesting story: The astrological week of seven days (named after the seven ancient "planets") evolved in Alexandria around the 2nd century B.C. After Julius Caesar conquered Egypt in the 1st century B.C., the astrological week spread through the areas ruled by Rome. The Jewish seven-day week evolved independently. The early Christians knew Saturday as the Jewish "Shabbath," and adopted this name for "dies Saturni." (The Jews identified the Sabbath and Saturn's Day, and named the planet Saturn after the Sabbath. Some of the ancients speculated that the Shabbath was a good day to take a rest anyway, since it was inauspicious as belonging to Saturn! -- cf. the word "saturnine.") Christians also changed Sunday ("dies Soli") to "the Lord's day" ("dies Domini") but retained the astrological names for the other days of the week, since they had no particular religious significance. (The early Christians associated the Lord with the sun in various ways; e.g., December 25 was chosen to celebrate Christ's nativity at least in part because it was traditionally the "birthday" of the sun after the winter solstice.) Christian influence spread rapidly in the Empire, and today the Romance languages use the Christian names for Saturday (sabato (It.), sabado (Sp.), samedi (Fr.)) and for Sunday (domingo, dimanche, etc.). However, Rome lost control of Britain early on, and there was little or no Christianization of Britain for several centuries into the Christian era. Consequently the astrological names became established, and today English, the Celtic languages of the British Isles, and Dutch are the only European languages which retain the astrological name for Saturday, as also for Sunday, along with German, Danish, and some others. The days which are named after Teutonic gods were apparently named by an attempt to identify these gods with Roman counterparts. German speakers, however, scored a coup by naming Wednesday "Midweek," which must help German speakers get through a tough week. The full story on the week can be found in the ultimate book on the subject, *The Seven-Day Circle* by E. Zerubavel. -- Richard Carnes, ihnp4!gargoyle!carnes