Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site hector.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!unc!mcnc!decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!hector!martillo From: martillo@hector.UUCP (Yakim Martillo) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.religion.jewish,net.nlang.africa Subject: Re: Apartheid on the West Bank Message-ID: <180@hector.UUCP> Date: Tue, 3-Dec-85 07:16:27 EST Article-I.D.: hector.180 Posted: Tue Dec 3 07:16:27 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 4-Dec-85 19:06:54 EST References: <4188@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU> <360@ubvax.UUCP> <614@unc.unc.UUCP> <175@hector.UUCP> <170@ucbjade.BERKELEY.EDU> Reply-To: martillo@hector.UUCP (Yakim Martillo) Organization: MIT Project Athena Lines: 48 Keywords: Hmmm..... Xref: lsuc net.politics:2278 net.religion.jewish:1652 net.nlang.africa:165 Summary: In article <170@ucbjade.BERKELEY.EDU> phoenix@ucbtopaz.UUCP () writes: >In article <175@hector.UUCP> martillo@hector.UUCP (Yakim Martillo) writes: >>Moreover, the British government and the French government have taken >>care that British and French remain voting majorities in their respective >>nations. For both countries this has been a problem because many colonial >>subjects had British or French citizenship. > >Can you back this up? I may have blinked, but I do not remember any law in >Britain restricting voting of non-white citizens. Please enlighten us.... > I believe that now for almost 10 years (since many Asians who possessed British Imperial Citizenship had to flee persecution and mass murder in Africa) Great Britain has maintained two types of citizenship, the type that Asians often have merely confers certain rights and recourse with British consular officials as long as the person remains outside Great Britain. This type of citizenship gives no right to reside within England. >>Hardly any comment was made >>about the action of these two governments because thier behavior was only >>natural because for the vast majority of countries nationality is linked >>with ethnic group. Israel has much more legitimate right to guarantee that >>Muslims remain a voting minority since Muslims have a long history of >>mistreatment of Jews and the Muslim leaders explicitly state that Muslims >>will mistreat Jews again if Muslims get the chance. >> >>Joachim Carlo Santos Martillo > >Uh....only natural? That leaves you on the wrong side of the Civil Rights >movement. The U.S. was *definitely* a white society - at one point even >solely WASP in terms of the eligable body politic. This needed to change, >as Europe will need to. Noone should have the right to repress *people* >because they are not of the "founders" ethnic origen, or because thier >'leaders'[did *every* muslim choose them?] have a 'history'. For the sake >of Israel fledgeling democracy, however, I hope a settlement works out with the >West Bank in other hands, and Israel not periled by that. That still does not >mean repression of those within current borders is acceptable - the underlying >current of your articles suggest you find ample justification. I hope I read >you wrong.... No I am on the correct side of the civil rights movement. Siding with Islamic supremacists who have lost out is exactly analogous to siding with white supremacists who have lost out. To tell the truth, I probably would have preferred to be a black under Jim Crow, than a non-Muslim living under Islamic law. By the way, the leaders did not rampage through the non-Muslim ghettos, the ordinary average Muslims engaged in this activity.