Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site umcp-cs.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!decwrl!pyramid!pesnta!amd!amdcad!lll-crg!seismo!umcp-cs!mangoe From: mangoe@umcp-cs.UUCP (Charley Wingate) Newsgroups: net.philosophy Subject: Chinese Languages in Rooms Message-ID: <2286@umcp-cs.UUCP> Date: Thu, 21-Nov-85 00:59:36 EST Article-I.D.: umcp-cs.2286 Posted: Thu Nov 21 00:59:36 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 23-Nov-85 05:28:22 EST References: <2461@sjuvax.UUCP> <27500160@ISM780B.UUCP> Distribution: na Organization: U of Maryland, Computer Science Dept., College Park, MD Lines: 20 In article <27500160@ISM780B.UUCP> jim@ISM780B.UUCP writes: >>"Let the individual internalize all of these elements of the system. >>He memorizes the rules in the ledger and the data banks of Chinese >>symbols, and he does all the calculations in his head. The individual >>then incorporates the entire system. There isn't anything at all to >>the system that he does not encompass. We can even get rid of the >>room and suppose he works outdoors. All the same, he understands >>nothing of the Chinese, and a fortiori neither does the system, >>because there isn't anything in the system that isn't in him." [Searles] >This seems to me to be patently false, since this is precisely what one >does when one learns Chinese. Oh really? How do you know? Having withstood six years of French, I can attest to the fact that memorizing the Rules Of French doesn't have you understanding French. Charley Wingate