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From: pmk@prometheus.UUCP (Paul M Koloc)
Newsgroups: net.physics
Subject: Re: Re: Newman, Edison, Velikovsky
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Date: Sat, 16-Nov-85 04:25:42 EST
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Determined to bury Velikovsky, Goody Gravel Grady shovels higher & deeper:  
> To use an oft-cited example, Velikovsky seems not to have had a clear
> understanding of the difference between hydrocarbons and carbohydrates.

Well that's understandable, I think in slavic languages the words
mean the same thing.  

> He wrote a little-known paper denying the existence of
I also believe that          does not exist.

> .. I am (not) likely to suggest that scientists are perfect beings,
> but it is bogus to claim that Dr. Velikovsky was rejected out of hand
> simply because he failed to conform to dogma.     
                                         ^^^^^  
Oh my!  There we go, again, an expression from Holy Mother Science.

> Why is Fred Hoyle, who has come up with some pretty wild ideas in 
> his time, held in such high regard in scientific circles while 
> Velikovsky is ignored? 

Well actually, high  .. or low . . Hoyle that is, -----  he was
associated with the "Steady State Universe" theory and that one
didn't need the presence of God (no creation necessary) so it gave 
a rather totalitarian role to science in explaining all things.
It was good for the ego mania of science, which breaks out NOW 
and then.  Hoyle should have stuck to card game rules!  :-)  

As far as "Veli-baby", well he tried to explain religious things
by stretching constructs of science and that's like being a
number one traitor in that he was helping the "other guys". 
Anybody that supports "biblical" events gets on the "ho-ho"
hit list fast.  Actually, he was pretty clever and fanciful. 

> I was amazed.  I admit I had expected a crackpot, but I had not
> expected such an offensive, contemptuous, mean-spirited, dumb
> crackpot.  

You left out "low down, sneaking, thieving, cattle rustling, blind 
dirty dog"

> Velikovsky's ideas were really aimed at Dr V.  Shapely's boycott

By the way, how did Shapely's daughter turn out? 

> Anyway, as Dick Dunn says:
> > Velikovsky has shown himself to be a charlatan of the first order--and a
> > nasty one at that.  
    ^^^^^
Hey I'll bet his mommy thought he was "nasty" too. 
> > angry with him; they've got to deal with the crap he's slinging.
    ^^^^^                                        ^^^^      ^^^^^^^^
How do you think he got his BS degree?

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