Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site utastro.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!ut-sally!utastro!ethan From: ethan@utastro.UUCP (Ethan Vishniac) Newsgroups: net.physics,net.research,net.misc Subject: Re: Re: Velikovsky, Einstein and peers Message-ID: <105@utastro.UUCP> Date: Tue, 26-Nov-85 13:31:19 EST Article-I.D.: utastro.105 Posted: Tue Nov 26 13:31:19 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 28-Nov-85 04:45:14 EST References: <3101@brl-tgr.ARPA> <197@prometheus.UUCP> Organization: U. Texas, Astronomy, Austin, TX Lines: 32 Xref: watmath net.physics:3638 net.research:365 net.misc:8931 > Hey, Alan, the idea was NOT to help cranks get published, > but rather to help worthwhile ideas that are too far off > the beaten track to get sympathetic review from "peers". > There IS a difference. The yellow issues of Il Nuovo > Cimento used to carry a substantial amount of the latter, > articles which Phys. Rev. D would not touch. I found > several of them very good, while others were silly. But > no sillier than what Phys. Rev. D routinely publishes! > > I think the main difference between crank literature and > off-beat literature is that the crank is ignorant whereas > the purveyor of off-beat ideas understands the "accepted" > point of view but disagrees with it. Well, this is close, but I would say that the crank may or may not be ignorant of facts, but is incapable of following scientific logic. Also, I think your comment about Phys.Rev.D is slightly hyperbolic. The sin they usually commit is preferring correct, but boring, work to speculative, but interesting work. The real problem any journal faces in publishing speculative stuff is the difficulty anyone has in drawing the line between the presently unverifiable and the intrinsically unverifiable. From a scientific point of view the latter is even more boring than steam tables. Journals that err too frequently by publishing flakey stuff cause their readers to drift away. I don't see any solution to the problem. -- "Superior firepower is an Ethan Vishniac important asset when {charm,ut-sally,ut-ngp,noao}!utastro!ethan entering into ethan@astro.UTEXAS.EDU negotiations" Department of Astronomy University of Texas