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From: abeles@mhuxm.UUCP (J. Abeles (Bellcore, Murray Hill, NJ))
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Subject: Re: Arabists in n.r.j.
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Date: Thu, 21-Nov-85 07:42:24 EST
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> Come on, Mr. Abeles.  Equating opposition to Zionism with anti-Semitism is
> stupid.  Are the many non-Zionist Jews in the world anti-Semitic?

Yes, they are.

> I do not wish to debate the issue of Zionism per se; my point is simply that
> anti-Zionism is NOT the same as anti-Semitism, and anyone even slightly
> familiar with attitudes within American Judaism during the last few decades
> knows that.
> Tim Maroney

Obviously you have qualified me to render my opinion, since I am
more than familiar with "attitudes within American Judaism..."

This is a new era, Tim, and your thinking is rooted in obsolete
rhetoric.  I challenge you to come up with any American Jewish
group which does not believe that the survival of the State of
Israel is CRITICALLY IMPORTANT for the security of Jews all over 
the world.

The Arabists have polarized all discussion regarding Israeli policies.
The best-known example is the "Zionism-is-Racism" resolution at
the UN.  Zionism has become synonomous with the very survival of
the State of Israel.  Arabs seek to utterly destroy Israel,
according to their actions and their words, and they target
Zionism.  When they take aim on the existence of Israel,
they take aim against ALL JEWISH PEOPLE, everywhere.

You allude to the opposition of many (though an overwhelming
minority) American Jews to the POLICIES of the state of Israel.
But, in spite of what a minority of them may say, this
is not anti-Zionism.  Anti-Zionism is the opposition to the
existence of a Jewish homeland in Israel.  Go ahead and ask
your friends and contacts within these sectors of the Jewish
community whether they are against the existence of Israel.
They are not!  Orthodox groups opposing Israel's existence
are indeed antisemitic because they advocate policies which
will lead directly to harm to Jews.

Of course, their are deviants who really are dissociating themselves
from the Jewish community, who don't wish to be involved with
the Jewish community, and whose only link to it is to proclaim
that they are Jewish while denouncing other Jews.  Is this
respectable behavior?  No, and their opinions are not to be
taken as those representative of the Jewish community.