Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: $Revision: 1.6.2.16 $; site ISM780B.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!qantel!lll-crg!seismo!harvard!think!ISM780B!jim From: jim@ISM780B.UUCP Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Orphaned Response Message-ID: <39000017@ISM780B.UUCP> Date: Mon, 18-Nov-85 23:05:00 EST Article-I.D.: ISM780B.39000017 Posted: Mon Nov 18 23:05:00 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 26-Nov-85 21:57:25 EST References: <7559@ucla-cs.UUCP> Lines: 38 Nf-ID: #R:ucla-cs:-755900:ISM780B:39000017:177600:2053 Nf-From: ISM780B!jim Nov 18 23:05:00 1985 >>If the Sandinistas are so totalitarian, why haven't they killed the new >>leaders of La Prensa? Why haven't they even shut the paper down? > >because if they do so they will be totally isolated from the western world >by loosing the support or sympathy they have from some western countries >and especially the Contadora group and the rest of south america. >you see, whenever someone says "there is no freedom of the press in Nicaragua" >they can say "but look at La Prensa"... You are right, they can say that. Whenever someone says "there is no freedom of the press in Nicaragua" you agree with them simply because you already believe it. Arguments that Nicaragua is a totalitarian regime are based entirely on emphatic assertion, and ridiculous ideological blathering that all governments of a certain form necessarily take a certain course (I heard Kissinger say in his interview with David Frost that it was ok to depose Allende because, not only was he a Marxist, but he was only elected by a plurality). But if you want to know the number of teeth in a horse's mouth, you should get it straight from the horse's mouth. Check with people who have actually *been* to Nicaragua; if you have never spoken to such a person then your comments on the subject are nothing more than stupid knee-jerk reactionary right-wing drone repetitive rantings following a party line. The fact is that it is the U.S. that is totally isolated from world opinion concerning Nicaragua, and that rejects the Contadora process. The main question that we should really be concerned with is, does the U.S. have the right to destroy the government and the people of the sovereign nation of Nicaragua? And even if, incredibly, it is decided that we have the right, we might want to ask whether we should bother, because unlike "other" totalitarian regimes, the Sandinistas have armed not just the army but the *populace*, and those people aren't too keen about being "liberated", so we are likely to have a rather bloody mess on our hands. -- Jim Balter (ima!jim)